KennyMiller Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 (edited) Less than 2 weeks. As things stand - What's your team and why? Gordon Hutton Berra Martin Wallace Brown Fletcher Burke Macurthur Anya Griffiths Gordon (GK) - More experience of playing in and winning big international matches and can handle a big atmosphere. Wallace (LB Deep) - Will do okay. Can tackle. Strong. Berra (CB) - Solid enough player. Martin and Hanley together does not work. Martin (CB) Hutton (RB) - Just. A better option than Paterson. Patersons positioning leaves a lot to be desired (see Saturday X 2) and positioning is key next week. Brown (CM Deep) - Like last time out at Wembley - every pass through him. Let him control the match. Fletcher (CM Deep) - Protect a poor defence. He's not been great recently at all but he's experienced and can handle an occasion. Macarthur (CM) - Can get a goal (see Sat x2) from midfield - runs all day. Burke (RM) - No fear. Direct. Get at them son. Anya (LM) - See Burke - Can help out an inexperienced Wallace Griffiths (FW) - Do what you want. Run about all day. Never say die. Can score a free kick. Edited October 31, 2016 by KennyMiller Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glasgow jock Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 When is the squad announced ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KennyMiller Posted October 31, 2016 Author Share Posted October 31, 2016 1 minute ago, glasgow jock said: When is the squad announced ? Wednesday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manno Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 Prior to Brown returning and Tierney being rules out injured I had considered a 5-4-1 of Gordon Paterson - R.Martin - Berra - Wallace - Tierney Anya - D.Fletcher - McArthur - Naismith Griffiths On his day Craig Gordon can be a world class keeper, and should always be ahead of David Marshall. Berra in place of Hanley, with Martin and Wallace either side of him to feed the ball out wide or up the park. I would have thrown Wallace into a back 3/5 which would allow Tierney to get forward; Wallace hasn't been at his best this season but we need an alternative to Hanley, and Mulgrew is horrendous imo. Naismith and Anya for their work rate. I'd even have thought about throwing in James Morrison to the midfield and Anya as RWB in place of Paterson (as Hutton hasn't really been a regular this season). I can't really think of anything wrong with the starting XI you've picked, other than there's no way the manager will pick it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KennyMiller Posted October 31, 2016 Author Share Posted October 31, 2016 4 minutes ago, Manno said: Prior to Brown returning and Tierney being rules out injured I had considered a 5-4-1 of Gordon Paterson - R.Martin - Berra - Wallace - Tierney Anya - D.Fletcher - McArthur - Naismith Griffiths On his day Craig Gordon can be a world class keeper, and should always be ahead of David Marshall. Berra in place of Hanley, with Martin and Wallace either side of him to feed the ball out wide or up the park. I would have thrown Wallace into a back 3/5 which would allow Tierney to get forward; Wallace hasn't been at his best this season but we need an alternative to Hanley, and Mulgrew is horrendous imo. Naismith and Anya for their work rate. I'd even have thought about throwing in James Morrison to the midfield and Anya as RWB in place of Paterson (as Hutton hasn't really been a regular this season). I can't really think of anything wrong with the starting XI you've picked, other than there's no way the manager will pick it! I've said as much. I believe Strachan will go with 6 changes from my 11. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mcfadden11 Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 (edited) A fit Mulgrew would be in at left back or centre half for me. Probably centre half due to Walcott's pace on the wing. Marshall; Hutton Martin Mulgrew Kingsley; Brown McArthur Morrison; Burke Ritchie; Griffiths Will probably change as time goes on. Certainly a flip of the coin for Marshall/Gordon. Possibly Martin at right back with Hanley moving in. Also quite like Steven Fletcher's all round game. Think he gets a hard time though I understand his lack of goals is concerning. Edited October 31, 2016 by Mcfadden11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 Struggle with any rationale to include D Fletcher in the starting line up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherps Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 Marshall Paterson Martin Berra Wallace Brown Mulgrew Burke Naismith Ritchie Griffiths Marshall is Strachan's choice to play keeper and he won't change that. There is no better option at RB than Paterson, Hutton's just bad. Berra in to replace Hanley, who doesn't warrant a start after the last couple of games. Wallace is the best option at LB. Mulgrew in with Brown as we haven't laid a glove on anyone in the last two games, and that can't be the case against England. A solid, hard-working base to play from. The front 4 are in there for pace, ability and work-rate. The 3 behind Griffiths can play in any of the three positions, meaning they can move around to find space, or in Burke and Naismith's case a height/heading advantage if Danny Rose plays LB. Griffiths is our best chance for a goal at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudScot Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 12 minutes ago, Sherps said: Marshall Paterson Martin Berra Wallace Brown Mulgrew Burke Naismith Ritchie Griffiths Marshall is Strachan's choice to play keeper and he won't change that. There is no better option at RB than Paterson, Hutton's just bad. Berra in to replace Hanley, who doesn't warrant a start after the last couple of games. Wallace is the best option at LB. Mulgrew in with Brown as we haven't laid a glove on anyone in the last two games, and that can't be the case against England. A solid, hard-working base to play from. The front 4 are in there for pace, ability and work-rate. The 3 behind Griffiths can play in any of the three positions, meaning they can move around to find space, or in Burke and Naismith's case a height/heading advantage if Danny Rose plays LB. Griffiths is our best chance for a goal at the moment. That would be fine and I agree with most of that. Strachan however, you can just see him playing the same dross; Hanley, Bannan, Chris Martin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stitch Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 13 minutes ago, Sherps said: Marshall Paterson Martin Berra Wallace Brown Mulgrew Burke Naismith Ritchie Griffiths Marshall is Strachan's choice to play keeper and he won't change that. There is no better option at RB than Paterson, Hutton's just bad. Berra in to replace Hanley, who doesn't warrant a start after the last couple of games. Wallace is the best option at LB. Mulgrew in with Brown as we haven't laid a glove on anyone in the last two games, and that can't be the case against England. A solid, hard-working base to play from. The front 4 are in there for pace, ability and work-rate. The 3 behind Griffiths can play in any of the three positions, meaning they can move around to find space, or in Burke and Naismith's case a height/heading advantage if Danny Rose plays LB. Griffiths is our best chance for a goal at the moment. i like the look of this team except i would play McArthur instead of Naismith. I think GS will go with Marshall Paterson Hanley Martin and Anya MIDFIELD Forrest Brown Fletcher McArthur Ritchie and Fletcher up top. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 No point trying to change the keeper, Marshall hasnt done anything wrong and still holds the jersey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AustroSchotte Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 What about the two Golden boys Banana and C. Martin at least one of them must start ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Langtonian Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 I expect Burke to be on the bench at most Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glasgow jock Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 1 hour ago, Sherps said: Marshall Paterson Martin Berra Wallace Brown Mulgrew Burke Naismith Ritchie Griffiths Marshall is Strachan's choice to play keeper and he won't change that. There is no better option at RB than Paterson, Hutton's just bad. Berra in to replace Hanley, who doesn't warrant a start after the last couple of games. Wallace is the best option at LB. Mulgrew in with Brown as we haven't laid a glove on anyone in the last two games, and that can't be the case against England. A solid, hard-working base to play from. The front 4 are in there for pace, ability and work-rate. The 3 behind Griffiths can play in any of the three positions, meaning they can move around to find space, or in Burke and Naismith's case a height/heading advantage if Danny Rose plays LB. Griffiths is our best chance for a goal at the moment. Actually agree with all of that - makes sense to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romanticscot Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 Just read Griffiths did not travel for Celtic's CL game this week, I foresee this as the reason Gordon will not start him and gives him a get out;He's not 100% fit due to getting over a recent virus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudScot Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 2 hours ago, Kirk said: No point trying to change the keeper, Marshall hasnt done anything wrong and still holds the jersey I think he's probably alluding to conceding 15463 goals in recent weeks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErsatzThistle Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 (edited) 2 hours ago, Langtonian said: I expect Burke to be on the bench at most Bet Strachan sends him down to the Under 21s. Edited October 31, 2016 by ErsatzThistle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErsatzThistle Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 6 minutes ago, ProudScot said: I think he's probably alluding to conceding 15463 goals in recent weeks Craig Gordon used to concede rather a lot when he was Sunderland. Take a look at the players in front of him, don't always blame the goalie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KennyMiller Posted October 31, 2016 Author Share Posted October 31, 2016 3 hours ago, Langtonian said: I expect Burke to be on the bench at most As do I. He should start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 3 hours ago, ProudScot said: I think he's probably alluding to conceding 15463 goals in recent weeks that seems a lot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErsatzThistle Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 29 minutes ago, Kirk said: that seems a lot Not even Rab "safe hands" Douglas let in that many ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 26 minutes ago, ErsatzThistle said: Not even Rab "safe hands" Douglas let in that many ! quality keeper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KennyMiller Posted November 1, 2016 Author Share Posted November 1, 2016 How will they line up? Who would we like to see take a knock from their team. I wouldn't mind Walcott pulling his hamstring this week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tartacus Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 Gordon Paterson R Martin Mulgrew Wallace D Fletcher Ritchie Brown McArthur Anya Griffiths How about this for a team and formation? Although I haven't seen enough of Wallace or Kingsley to judge properly. McArthur has been playing well at club level and seems better at keeping the ball these days. He used to win it for Scotland and immediately pass it to the opposition. He even pops up in the box now and again and can score. Brown experienced and likes a battle. D Fletcher cannot cover the ground these days but would be a steady head to protect our vunerable defence? Mulgrew, if fit, is less error prone than Hanley and can control and pass the ball. Anya on wide midfield to help our left back but also can counter fast. We have no outstanding striker so maybe give Griffiths a run as the 'hold up' types (Martin and S Fletcher) are not particularly adept at holding it up. Let Griffiths whizz around and chase more? Paterson should play because Hutton is suspect defensively and Paterson is a good athlete and dangerous in their box. R Martin can also watch for Paterson being out of position and cover him if required while D Fletcher drops in to cover R Martin ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 4-4-2 Marshall bardsley Martin berra mulgrew burke brown McArthur snodgrass fletcher griffiths Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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