irish Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/world-cup/poll-ifa-asks-fifa-if-northern-ireland-team-can-wear-poppy-but-is-it-a-political-symbol-35180649.html I see the IFA (surprise surprise) have followed suit. Would be a great source of amusement if it resulted in a points deduction costing our northern cousins up the road qualification Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamntg Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 13 minutes ago, DoonTheSlope said: There is points to deduct. If they wish they could put both teams down to -3 or whatever. But that will NOT happen. It'll be a fine of 50,000 Swiss Francs Thank you for the clarity, Gianni Infantino. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 21 minutes ago, DoonTheSlope said: There will NOT be any points deduction no matter what the SFA decides to do I doubt there will be a points deduction, however, I'd expect that any sanction will be severe when compared to others. It's pretty obvious that if say you're going to do something, get told that it's against the rules, then say you don't care we're going to do it anyway and we'll take the consequences then the governing body isn't going to look kindly on that. Especially if you form part of the board that makes up the rules in the first place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbcmfc Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 Let's be honest, they're not going to deduct points from England, although they're not a big draw football wise, TV and advertising and the worldwide profile of their top players means there will be no points deduction is case it jeopardised Slovakia qualifying in their place. A financial penalty seems most likely, FIFA like money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamntg Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 32 minutes ago, sbcmfc said: Let's be honest, they're not going to deduct points from England, although they're not a big draw football wise, TV and advertising and the worldwide profile of their top players means there will be no points deduction is case it jeopardised Slovakia qualifying in their place. A financial penalty seems most likely, FIFA like money. Maybe they'll just deduct points from Scotland then. Point is, they've said don't do it, if we go and do it anyway then we're in bigger trouble than if we'd done then been told it wasn't allowed. I have the same problem with my 11 year old, where he's the SFA and I'm FIFA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlueGaz Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 4 minutes ago, adamntg said: Maybe they'll just deduct points from Scotland then. Point is, they've said don't do it, if we go and do it anyway then we're in bigger trouble than if we'd done then been told it wasn't allowed. I have the same problem with my 11 year old, where he's the SFA and I'm FIFA. What happened last time this happened? I believe it has happened at least once before - not certain though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jailender Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 Scottish team wore poppy armbands in the away game against Cyprus in 2011m and hee-haw happened after that. Precedent has been set surely. Personally, I think each player should choose if he wants to wear or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbcmfc Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 2 minutes ago, jailender said: Personally, I think each player should choose if he wants to wear or not. Imagine the witch hunt if someone chose not too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamntg Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 9 minutes ago, BlueGaz said: What happened last time this happened? I believe it has happened at least once before - not certain though. We were given permission last time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bino's Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 6 minutes ago, BlueGaz said: What happened last time this happened? I believe it has happened at least once before - not certain though. do you mean in the eighties when people bought a poppy in the week run up to the sunday, so they could give a charitable donation some old grannies went to a sunday service which was a bit busier than usual and a half hour programme appeared of politcians and royals laying a wreath on the sunday and that was it when we were involved in more just wars and didn't need to hype up and ram down peoples throats a now politicised symbol and naebdae at football did f*ck all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlueGaz Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 Just now, adamntg said: We were given permission last time. I assumed so, wander why they have changed their stance this time then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbcmfc Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 (edited) 16 minutes ago, adamntg said: Maybe they'll just deduct points from Scotland then. Point is, they've said don't do it, if we go and do it anyway then we're in bigger trouble than if we'd done then been told it wasn't allowed. I have the same problem with my 11 year old, where he's the SFA and I'm FIFA. Don't disagree, was just making the point that any sanction is likely to be financial. Our boy is only 3, but also trying to install the same. The current "sanctions" of choice are no bed time story, or no scooter on way to nursery. My wife was going too big and threatening to cancel summer holidays and the likes. If you're going to threaten a sanction you have to be willing and able to follow it through. Edited November 3, 2016 by sbcmfc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlueGaz Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 4 minutes ago, jailender said: Personally, I think each player should choose if he wants to wear or not. That wouldn't be fair on the players, agree with sbcmfc. Best not doing it at all, then there are no potential issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlueGaz Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 2 minutes ago, Bino's said: do you mean in the eighties when people bought a poppy in the week run up to the sunday, so they could give a charitable donation some old grannies went to a sunday service which was a bit busier than usual and a half hour programme appeared of politcians and royals laying a wreath on the sunday and that was it when we were involved in more just wars and didn't need to hype up and ram down peoples throats a now politicised symbol and naebdae at football did f*ck all No, didn't mean that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoonTheSlope Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 I'm surprised how many people on here are getting all up tight about a points deduction that won't happen considering many on here have conceded that we'll get hammered next week never mind qualify Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jailender Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 We could still get a points deduction if we lose! Unlikely though (deduction that is) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoonTheSlope Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 1 minute ago, jailender said: We could still get a points deduction if we lose! Unlikely though (deduction that is) It seems the majority on here have conceded with the fact we won't have a chance of qualifying anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deecie Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 7 minutes ago, DoonTheSlope said: It seems the majority on here have conceded with the fact we won't have a chance of qualifying anyway Yeah, I'd imagine most people here have seen Scotland play recently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irish Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 4 minutes ago, deecie said: Yeah, I'd imagine most people here have seen Scotland play recently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamntg Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 31 minutes ago, irish said: Hey you, we can laugh at that, not you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irish Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 7 minutes ago, adamntg said: Hey you, we can laugh at that, not you! Bloody paddies, coming in here and stealing our emoticons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotunited Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 a big poppy display before kick off with fans holding up paper, to show up FIFA . It would be mandatory to participate in display, or you would be identified by cctv and publicly shamed and named. And your points points deducted, would ensure that everyone took part in this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
in5omniac Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 what about a poppy on the "anthem jacket" rather than the shirt, do you reckon they'd allow that? Either way, I think being told we can't/shouldn't do it, then going ahead and doing it anyway is a silly move to make. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goozay Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 7 hours ago, Bino's said: Regan must go taking on world football over an issue like wearing a poppy whilst not bothering to spend his time restructuring our game so we actually produce footballers of any ability the bulk of his time appears spent trying to milk the most cash out of the fans he is not fit for purpose Again. I'm with Bino's on this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coldo Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 1 hour ago, Goozay said: Again. I'm with Bino's on this one. Ha, you can already see Regan thinking..... Limited Poppy Edition Scotland Shirts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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