ErsatzThistle Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Question for the Irish lads. On the YBIG forum I've noticed that whilst obviously Man Utd, Liverpool, Everton, Arsenal, Spurs and Villa are have their supporters, one of the more popular teams is Sunderland. Any particular reason for this ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBoysinGreen Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 From what we're hearing here in Ireland there was a gentlemans agreement between the FAI & SFA for a 10% allocation. This week the SFA backed down and only offered 5% despite tickets not selling like hot cakes on the general sale. Is 6,000 Irish in one area worse than 3,000 in one area and another 3,000 scattered around the Lisbon Lions stand. Surely from a safety point of view it would make it easier for police etc for all away fans to be in the one area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBoysinGreen Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 (edited) Question for the Irish lads. On the YBIG forum I've noticed that whilst obviously Man Utd, Liverpool, Everton, Arsenal, Spurs and Villa are have their supporters, one of the more popular teams is Sunderland. Any particular reason for this ? I think it comes from the Niall Quinn connection and the fact that they were owned by an Irish consortium for years. In saying that, very very few people would support them. Edited October 22, 2014 by TheBoysinGreen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 A bit of a generalisation but it's safe to say that almost no Celtic supporters in Northern Ireland would support the 6 counties team. They'd generally give the Republic their support. I guess in their eyes the Republic would be the team for "all Ireland". Odd that the Irish FA is based in Belfast though. In fact when I used to go to the old Home Internationals back in the 70s the games would be advertised as Scotland v Ireland (like in the rugby I guess)... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottcross Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 I think it comes from the Niall Quinn connection and the fact that they were owned by an Irish consortium for years. In saying that, very very few people would support them. Quinny saved Shelbourne going bust several years ago by sending a team over at short notice for a friendly.knowing our travelling support would boost the clubs bank account. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irishandproud Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Question for the Irish lads. On the YBIG forum I've noticed that whilst obviously Man Utd, Liverpool, Everton, Arsenal, Spurs and Villa are have their supporters, one of the more popular teams is Sunderland. Any particular reason for this ? It's not true! It's a little group from sunderland that talk absolute nonsense every single day, have a look at the thread! It's funny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wee mac Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 cant believe some of the stuff on this blog why not stick to supporting scotland against roi and forget the rest . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irishandproud Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 This is gonna be one of the biggest bandwagons since Poland 2012, all aboard, next stop Glasgow, CHOO CHOO!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBoysinGreen Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 (edited) I guess in their eyes the Republic would be the team for "all Ireland". Odd that the Irish FA is based in Belfast though. In fact when I used to go to the old Home Internationals back in the 70s the games would be advertised as Scotland v Ireland (like in the rugby I guess)... Yeah the Republic of Ireland is seen as the de facto "All Ireland" team. Considering lads from Derry can play for us makes this belief stronger. As you probably know generally only loyalists/unionists would support the Northern Ireland. The Irish FA (Northern Ireland) are based in Belfast due to being the original FA on the island. Edited October 22, 2014 by TheBoysinGreen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larky Masher Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Christ almighty. Please don't tell me you represent Ireland abroad. She does, but she doesn't do it very well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBoysinGreen Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Odd that the Irish FA is based in Belfast though. In fact when I used to go to the old Home Internationals back in the 70s the games would be advertised as Scotland v Ireland (like in the rugby I guess)... The Irish FA in Belfast represents Northern Ireland. The Football Association of Ireland in Dublin represents the Republic of Ireland. For me it's always been strange the they call themselves the "Irish FA" in Belfast as i doubt any of them would self indetify as being Irish. Summary 1880 – IFA founded in Belfast, representing all of Ireland ("Ireland") 1921 – FAI founded in Dublin, representing Republic of Ireland ("Irish Free State") 1936 – FAI begins also selecting Northern players ("Ireland"/"Éire") 1946 – FAI stops selecting Northern players ("Republic of Ireland" as of 1954) 1950 – IFA stops selecting Southern players ("Northern Ireland" as of 1954)Therefore – IFA (today Northern Ireland) represents all of Ireland between 1880–1950 FAI (today Republic of Ireland) represents all of Ireland between 1936–1946 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iainmac1 Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Don't the FAI still select Northern Irish players who want to play for them even if they aren't eligable through normal FIFA rules. But it doesn't work the other way around. Northern Ireland can't select players from the Republic outside normal elegibility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Cheers for that. I suppose it's quite significant you've a former Northern Ireland player as manager now. I do seem to recall Martin O'Neill saying he would always support Northern Ireland against the Republic if they played (clearly this was before he took his current job!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColemanY2K Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Don't the FAI still select Northern Irish players who want to play for them even if they aren't eligable through normal FIFA rules. But it doesn't work the other way around. Northern Ireland can't select players from the Republic outside normal elegibility. Thanks to the Giod Friday Agreement both the Republic and Northern Ireland can select anyone from the Island. Both FIFA and UEFA recognise this agreement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Thanks to the Giod Friday Agreement both the Republic and Northern Ireland can select anyone from the Island. Both FIFA and UEFA recognise this agreement. What a fecked up situation! I suppose it's not been so apparent because N. Ireland have been so poor, but they appear to have got their act together. If both halves were to qualify you've effectively got Ireland A & Ireland B playing in a tournament! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColemanY2K Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 What a fecked up situation! I suppose it's not been so apparent because N. Ireland have been so poor, but they appear to have got their act together. If both halves were to qualify you've effectively got Ireland A & Ireland B playing in a tournament! Northern Ireland effectively choose to select players exclusively from Northern Ireland be they Catholic, Protestant or whatever religon. For some reason they don't call up players from the south...probably due to the large number who would reject their advances. The Republic of Ireland call up players form all creeds and its up to the player whether he wants to play for the south or north. Many Catholics have opted for the north. Fecked up is right ha! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stocky Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 What a fecked up situation! I suppose it's not been so apparent because N. Ireland have been so poor, but they appear to have got their act together. If both halves were to qualify you've effectively got Ireland A & Ireland B playing in a tournament! not necessarily Ireland' a' v Ireland 'b' as there will be players from each team who would be an 'a' team player and obviously players from both teams who would be a ''b' team player... Would a united Ireland team be stronger? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helen Donegan Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 She does, but she doesn't do it very well. I knew you couldn't resist!!LOL - you would get on very well with your man, you have a lot in common Probably even support the same ex-team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iainmac1 Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Is there the same thing in Northern Ireland with people pissed off that other people like Helen support a foreign country over their own one... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larky Masher Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 I knew you couldn't resist!!LOL - you would get on very well with your man, you have a lot in common Probably even support the same ex-team Have you had "work" done? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBoysinGreen Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Is there the same thing in Northern Ireland with people pissed off that other people like Helen support a foreign country over their own one... Yeah the unionist Northern Ireland support can't undertand why she wouldn't support Northern Ireland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBoysinGreen Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 not necessarily Ireland' a' v Ireland 'b' as there will be players from each team who would be an 'a' team player and obviously players from both teams who would be a ''b' team player... Would a united Ireland team be stronger? A united Ireland team would never work. Northern Ireland fans want to be in the UK and display the Union flag. Irish fans display the tricolour. Sadly it wouldn't work in football. Every single other sport, rugby, hockey, cricket, boxing etc is All Ireland. Football is the only sport that is split Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deecie Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 A united Ireland team would never work. Northern Ireland fans want to be in the UK and display the Union flag. Irish fans display the tricolour. Sadly it wouldn't work in football. Every single other sport, rugby, hockey, cricket, boxing etc is All Ireland. Football is the only sport that is split One team waving tricolours while the other waves union jacks? There's something familiar sounding about that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBoysinGreen Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 (edited) Don't the FAI still select Northern Irish players who want to play for them even if they aren't eligable through normal FIFA rules. But it doesn't work the other way around. Northern Ireland can't select players from the Republic outside normal elegibility. Anyone born in Northern Ireland can claim an Irish passport and claim Irish nationality therefore can declare for the Republic. Don't forget nearly half the population of Northern Ireland would self identify as being Irish and would balk at the idea of being called "Northern Irish" Edited October 22, 2014 by TheBoysinGreen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBoysinGreen Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 One team waving tricolours while the other waves union jacks? There's something familiar sounding about that. How about the Scottish planters leave the north of Ireland and we'll take back the Irish immigrants from Glasgow. All would be rosy then! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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