iainmac1 Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 Despite standing on an anti-austerity platform and advertising themselves as a breath of fresh air against established Westminster parties and policies, I see the SNP MPs have elected to take the increase in salary rather than collectively redivert it to say, a host of food banks. There is the provision for it to her diverted at source but not one MP has done this - if the SNP had done this collectively I feel it would have sent a clear message. The fact they haven't suggests that the group of SNP MPs are largely no different to the "establishment" MPs. The standard response that they have no option but to accept it is not true as long as it is redirected to charity.......... They are all donating the pay rise to charity. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/snp-mps-at-westminster-are-giving-their-7000-pay-rise-to-charity-10397476.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 They are all donating the pay rise to charity. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/snp-mps-at-westminster-are-giving-their-7000-pay-rise-to-charity-10397476.html Now is a time of austerity and huge financial difficulties for far too many people. It is not right for MPs to have a pay-rise in these circumstances. As IPSA has gone ahead with these changes, I think it would be right to use the funds to support good causes Doesn't say it's actually happening Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iainmac1 Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 Doesn't say it's actually happening The party told all MP's to give the pay rise to charity. I'm sure I've read since that all are. It's pretty safe to say that it is happening. Not sure the other parties positions on this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 The party told all MP's to give the pay rise to charity. I'm sure I've read since that all are. It's pretty safe to say that it is happening. You believe everything in the media? The above article just quotes that it's the right thing to do, not that it's actually happening Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Return of Yermaw Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 The party told all MP's to give the pay rise to charity. I'm sure I've read since that all are. It's pretty safe to say that it is happening. Not sure the other parties positions on this. Not true. I wrote to the FM's office as well as my Glasgow North MP. I particularly liked the latter's reference to salaries being a personal and issue sensitive despite the context the question of salaries was raised in: Begin forwarded message: From: Ria Robertson <Ria.Robertson@snp.org> Subject: RE: Fwd: Update from Patrick Grady MP Date: 24 September 2015 15:28:14 BST To: Afternoon Many thanks for your email sent to Nicola Sturgeon MSP. As Patrick Grady MP rightly states, MPs salaries are set and paid independently, so it is simply not possible for MPs not to receive them. While it is up to individual members how they decide to use their parliamentary salaries, the SNP understands there will be concern that IPSA have awarded this increase at a time of continuing austerity when other workers in both the public and private sectors are getting only modest pay rises, or none at all. It is up to individual members to respond to constituents regarding their MP salary and what they do with their MP salary and on this occasion there is nothing further that I can add to Patrick’s response. Kind regards, Ria Ria Robertson Operations Executive Scottish National Party Direct Dial: 0131 525 8924 SNP HQ, Gordon Lamb House, 3 Jackson’s Entry, Edinburgh ,EH8 8PJ On 24 Sep 2015, at 10:06, GRADY, Patrick <patrick.grady.mp@parliament.uk> wrote: Dear Thanks for getting in touch. You are right that the SNP has been clear that we live in a time of austerity and huge financial difficulties for far too many people. It is not right for MPs to have a pay-rise in these circumstances. However, as MP salaries are set and paid independently through IPSA, it is simply not possible for MPs not to receive them. While it is up to individual members how they decide to use their parliamentary salaries, in these circumstances I know that many of us are looking to support good causes using the additional income arising from the salary review. The story you refer to describes only one route by which MPs can donate to charity. Many small and local charities which MPs choose to support may prefer to receive donations in different ways. For example, I have purchased a stock of branded House of Commons merchandise (mostly teddy bears and boxes of chocolates) which is available for local good causes to use as prizes in fund-raising raffles. 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Armchair Bob Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 Bit of a shit reply from Patrick Grady. Parliament branded teddy bears FFS. He should be handing out Guy Fawkes masks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 Bit of a shit reply from Patrick Grady. Parliament branded teddy bears FFS. He should be handing out Guy Fawkes masks. But the kids who get one might end upon a bonfire. You've no really thought that one through, have you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 Social justice in action. Gobbled up property paying less than market price. Solicitor involved been struck off. http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/news/article1612472.ece?CMP=OTH-gnws-standard-2015_09_26 What's the gist of it Alan, i only get a bit of the story as behind a paywall or my adblocker or something. Can't really comment without reading it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 Nationalism. "accept that no member shall within or outwith the parliament publicly criticise a group decision, policy or another member of the group". Nah that's a symptom of the disease of certainty, most groups have it, it's so annoying... when other side does it , pitch-forks when our side does it, excuses come out. Confirmation bias,my-side reasoning etc, it's not exclusive to nationalists or labour, but to humans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 using £250 per MP/MSP per month from Salary to go back into SNP Coffers? Is that allowed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eisegerwind Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 Did anyone vote for the SNP cos they thought the were the custodians of fairness and social justice? I thought it was about firstly independence and then we'll sort out the other stuff later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 using £250 per MP/MSP per month from Salary to go back into SNP Coffers? Is that allowed? Why not? Anybody can donate money to the SNP. Why not MP/MSPs? MPs from other parties will be contributing to their parties through membership fees. I'm not sure why you would think it would be an issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 (edited) Why not? Anybody can donate money to the SNP. Why not MP/MSPs? MPs from other parties will be contributing to their parties through membership fees. I'm not sure why you would think it would be an issue. Cause i read it wasn't allowed somewhere, or at least think i did. That's why i asked for clarification. The context i read it in was Labour running out of money and folk using their salary to top up party coffers. Will try and find it when i have time. Edited September 27, 2015 by phart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 Did anyone vote for the SNP cos they thought the were the custodians of fairness and social justice? I thought it was about firstly independence and then we'll sort out the other stuff later. I would guess that lots of folk have lots of different reasons for voting SNP. Their views on fairness and social justice will have had some impact IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 Cause i read it wasn't allowed somewhere, or at least think i did. That's why i asked for clarification. I am just guessing here but I don't think will be taken directly out of their salary, as that would have to be administered by Westminster (or whoever it is who pays their salary). They are unlikely to provide that facility for the SNP. It will probably just be an agreement within the SNP that each MP "donates" £250 a month to SNP funds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 I am just guessing here but I don't think will be taken directly out of their salary, as that would have to be administered by Westminster (or whoever it is who pays their salary). They are unlikely to provide that facility for the SNP. It will probably just be an agreement within the SNP that each MP "donates" £250 a month to SNP funds. Yeah i had a vague memory of something to do with party funds and salaries. could have it all mucked up in my head though. It was around the time Labour were totally rooked. meh i'm sure if it isn't allowed someone will let me know in the papers at some point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eisegerwind Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 I would guess that lots of folk have lots of different reasons for voting SNP. Their views on fairness and social justice will have had some impact IMO. Yeah but MP's might be kunts isn't really news. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 Yeah i had a vague memory of something to do with party funds and salaries. could have it all mucked up in my head though. It was around the time Labour were totally rooked. meh i'm sure if it isn't allowed someone will let me know in the papers at some point. You're not thinking about the trade union membership levy for the Labour party are you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 You're not thinking about the trade union membership levy for the Labour party are you? No it was a separate thing, it was years ago now, so god knows what time and drugs have done to the memory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossy Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 Until she's shagged a dead pigs head, rolled in a bath o'Charlie, had sex with a male Russian spy and waged war on the poor and needy in the UK, I refuse to condemn her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killiefaetheferry Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 i would Should have gone to Specsavers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stapes Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 You believe everything in the media? The above article just quotes that it's the right thing to do, not that it's actually happening My MP put up on a private Facebook page that they were all donating it to charity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parklife Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 So she owns a stack of properties so that she can profit from inflated rental prices, due to a shortage fo affordable housing. All the while she's also on Ashley Madison, doing feck knows what. Clearly a bastion of the social justice, fairness and integrity policies which the SNP claim to represent... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan cake Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 Anyone who owns 17 homes is a wrong un keeping it real Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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