hampden_loon2878 Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 With the news that our universities have performed very well there have been a few posts on my FB page to counter this "good news" trying to slate the snp on their record for collage places, could anyone shed some light on the snps record with collages, i keep hearing about all these place they have cut, one acquaintance was branding about 140,000 place which surley cant be right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 (edited) Gillian Martin blogged about this back in April before she was elected as an SNP candidate http://misssymartin.blogspot.co.uk/2015/04/behind-soundbite-college-places.html Edited October 1, 2015 by Ally Bongo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iainmac1 Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 Dugdale was spouting some nonsense about 50% of children from the most deprived areas leaving primary school being unable to read. Completely made up rubbish but is able to get away with it unchallenged as usual. I do wonder anyway, how would having a Labour government make the children in my class read better? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 Dugdale was spouting some nonsense about 50% of children from the most deprived areas leaving primary school being unable to read. Completely made up rubbish but is able to get away with it unchallenged as usual. I do wonder anyway, how would having a Labour government make the children in my class read better? Aye, it's shocking how many folk are leaving school unable to read. Turns out Dugdale is one of them. http://wingsoverscotland.com/nailing-down-the-truth/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hampden_loon2878 Posted October 2, 2015 Author Share Posted October 2, 2015 Sometimes the SNP cant do right for doing wrong,,, another thread i read was moaning about the Aberdeen bye pass FFS, if it werent for the snp the project would have never got off the ground... I know they are not perfect and disagree with a few policies and handling of certain things .regardless if people dint support the party, credit should be given where credits due Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShedTA Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 They are the party in power however so will inevitably be in the firing line. they need to deal with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scunnered Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 They are the party in power however so will inevitably be in the firing line. they need to deal with it. They need to stop up and they'll get on better. A minority government will go a long way to address their incompetence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biffer Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 (edited) They need to stop up and they'll get on better. A minority government will go a long way to address their incompetence. It was a minority government situation that created the tram debacle. Government funding voted through against the wishes of the governing party. Edited October 2, 2015 by biffer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShedTA Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 They need to stop up and they'll get on better. A minority government will go a long way to address their incompetence. scunnered every govt f*cks up i am afraid. none of them can ever do right by everyone. snp f*ck ups need to be addressed and they should be accountable for them. shame the decades of f*ck ups by westminster governments cant be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stapes Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Sometimes the SNP cant do right for doing wrong My retort to this was that Salmond could cure cancer and they'd complain he was doing nurses and doctors out of jobs. Hothersall was particularly happy to be accused of this level of SNP-bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hampden_loon2878 Posted October 2, 2015 Author Share Posted October 2, 2015 They smear campaign seems to have moved up a level of late, im now reading post on homany celebrations in edinburgh receiving SG funding, the asylum seekers carry on and the underspend of 347million. with an underspend does that money not just carry on onto other projects? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scunnered Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 (edited) scunnered every govt f*cks up i am afraid. none of them can ever do right by everyone. snp f*ck ups need to be addressed and they should be accountable for them. shame the decades of f*ck ups by westminster governments cant be. They absolutely do need to be held accountable, but we have the least accountable government in the world and I for one am sick of their expedience ridden pish. "We're fully committed to a living wage/public services, but the EU won't let us so it's not our fault... But we're fully committed to the EU".Unfortunately for every person who finds that unacceptable there are 1,000 Ally Bongos positively lapping it up. Edited October 2, 2015 by Scunnered Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 They absolutely do need to be held accountable, but we have the least accountable government in the world and I for one am sick of their expedience ridden pish. "We're fully committed to a living wage/public services, but the EU won't let us so it's not our fault... But we're fully committed to the EU". Unfortunately for every person who finds that unacceptable there are 1,000 Ally Bongos positively lapping it up. Away wi ye ya absolute roaster Im the most fervent Nat on the board am i ? You dont half come out with some pish when you are peeved but thats right up there. Whats wrong with you ? It's no my fault all your hopes and dreams with Jeremy have been blown out the water within 3 weeks ( i was supportive of him too until he came out with his Unionism diatribe) And it's no my fault folk are not taking heed of your warnings about the nasty SNP Did you ever consider that many on here might actually agree with you and have the same morals ? Do you ever consider that many on here are not in love with the SNP either but can overlook certain things at the moment because they are the only chance we have of gaining Independence ? So when you dish out your anti SNP rhetoric thats what you are attacking - the only vehicle to get us there. Maybe thats why folk are not standing behind you and cheering you on in your quest for a socialist utopia right now. If we were Independent and the SNP were in power then we'd probably be all behind you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Caledonian Craig Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 I have had heated discussions on other forums with regards independence and the unionists (many not Scots) are adamant the only reason people vote for the SNP is because they are pushing for independence. This could and probably is true but at the end of the day every Scot who wants independence then the only way that will ever happen is through the SNP and voting for them. Labour and Tories (the Scottish branch) will never ever push for it so there you have it. If independence is what you want vote the SNP even if you disagree with their policies as once independence is achieved the elections will allow you to vote for whoever you want then. The way I see the whole referendum last year was a bit of short-term thinking by no voters who may like the idea of indepencence but not the SNP. At the end of the day we'd soon get elections where you can vote for whoever you want to lead an independent Scotland and whoever that is we don't know what the full plans would be so the referendum was really too much thinking short-term by no voters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDYER63 Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 Like many, I joined the SNP a few days after the referendum. Like many i did not join for my love of the SNP but as a statement of continuing support for independence . I do not agree with many of the policies but i do think there is a far greater chance of changing these policies if you are part of that party rather than by ' carping from the sidelines' . The SNP are witnessing unprecedented power, this power can be lost almost as quickly as it came. There is nothing a politician wants less than to lose power once gained so i think the new SNP members hold more power than they realise. Given the fact they were not members prior to the referendum, i don't think these new members are all gullible idiots ready to be taken in with total bullshit. The SNP can still be moulded , and an independent Scotland can then choose whether or not they fit that mould. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larky Masher Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 With the news that our universities have performed very well there have been a few posts on my FB page to counter this "good news" trying to slate the snp on their record for collage places, could anyone shed some light on the snps record with collages, i keep hearing about all these place they have cut, one acquaintance was branding about 140,000 place which surley cant be right? They have f*cked up the FE sector. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 They have f*cked up the FE sector. Hmm where do we start on what Westminster has f*cked up? Poll Tax Council Tax Wars sold on lies Cash for Questions disgrace Privatisation Slave Labour YTS Schemes Prime Ministers who shag pigs Shall I go on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larky Masher Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 Hmm where do we start on what Westminster has f*cked up? Poll Tax Council Tax Wars sold on lies Cash for Questions disgrace Privatisation Slave Labour YTS Schemes Prime Ministers who shag pigs Shall I go on? Please go on as you're quite amusing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 Please go on as you're quite amusing. If you find all those debacles amusing then I really pity you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larky Masher Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 If you find all those debacles amusing then I really pity you. What is amusing is that you seem to think you're making an insightful comment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 (edited) What is amusing is that you seem to think you're making an insightful comment. Feel free to post your support of soldiers being sent in to war on lies, 17-year-old working for 40+ hours a week for a pittance, prime ministers involved in sordid affairs, politicians lying and lining their pockets, the working class forking out in taxes (poll and council) whilst the rich prosper. I wonder what your thoughts are on all that pish. Edited October 3, 2015 by Caledonian Craig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larky Masher Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 Feel free to post your support of soldiers being sent in to war on lies, 17-year-old working for 40+ hours a week for a pittance, prime ministers involved in sordid affairs, politicians lying and lining their pockets, the working class forking out in taxes (poll and council) whilst the rich prosper. I wonder what your thoughts are on all that pish. Have you invented an irrelevance generator? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShedTA Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 Have you invented an irrelevance generator? Larky why resort to the usual personal attacks? All the point she makes are valid. You unable to answer them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larky Masher Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 The points are not valid they they are simply deflection, the SNP FE policy is a shambles it's wasted millions of pounds, put almost £100million outside government control and made thing worse for both students and staff. And as for personal attacks is Craig a she? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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