thewelk Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 (edited) I was only really aiming to convert my parents. My mum was quite easy. She was a definite no but it only took a bit of persuasion from me and my brother to get her to yes. And her crowd of pals are all hard yessers anyway so they would have done it if we hadn't. My dad on the other hand (a typical 60+ ex army type) was and still is completely unmovable. I really thought I could work on him over time but he refuses to open his mind even a little bit. And he doesn't even say why he's no, "that's just the way it is". It's so f'ing frustrating because I'm sure he'd benefit a lot from it. But there's no way in there. A lost cause in my opinion. Has anyone else dealt with someone like that? And did you have any success? What's the eureka moment for that type?? Edited September 14, 2014 by thewelk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kumnio Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 Tell him he is going in a home unless he changes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 I was only really aiming to convert my parents. My mum was quite easy. She was a definite no but it only took a bit of persuasion from me and my brother to get her to yes. And her crowd of pals are all hard yessers anyway so they would have done it if we hadn't. My dad on the other hand (a typical 60+ ex army type) was and still is completely unmovable. I really thought I could work on him over time but he refuses to open his mind even a little bit. And he doesn't even say why he's no, "that's just the way it is". It's so f'ing frustrating because I'm sure he'd benefit a lot from it. But there's no way in there. A lost cause in my opinion. Has anyone else dealt with someone like that? And did you have any success? What's the eureka moment for that type?? Just move on to somebody else with a more open mind. Some folk will never change their mind, which is fair enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasoupblu Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 Unless you pursue your old Dutch into the booth how do you know, she probably just sick of you banging on to her.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuNsTeR Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 I was only really aiming to convert my parents. My mum was quite easy. She was a definite no but it only took a bit of persuasion from me and my brother to get her to yes. And her crowd of pals are all hard yessers anyway so they would have done it if we hadn't. My dad on the other hand (a typical 60+ ex army type) was and still is completely unmovable. I really thought I could work on him over time but he refuses to open his mind even a little bit. And he doesn't even say why he's no, "that's just the way it is". It's so f'ing frustrating because I'm sure he'd benefit a lot from it. But there's no way in there. A lost cause in my opinion. Has anyone else dealt with someone like that? And did you have any success? What's the eureka moment for that type?? basically my entire immediate family dad, mum, sisters ... total lost cause instead I work on my cousins, nephews and nieces and at my work with a varying degree of success turned a family of undecideds to Yes yesterday whilst doing my delivery (Postie) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hessen Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 I was only really aiming to convert my parents. My mum was quite easy. She was a definite no but it only took a bit of persuasion from me and my brother to get her to yes. And her crowd of pals are all hard yessers anyway so they would have done it if we hadn't. My dad on the other hand (a typical 60+ ex army type) was and still is completely unmovable. I really thought I could work on him over time but he refuses to open his mind even a little bit. And he doesn't even say why he's no, "that's just the way it is". It's so f'ing frustrating because I'm sure he'd benefit a lot from it. But there's no way in there. A lost cause in my opinion. Has anyone else dealt with someone like that? And did you have any success? What's the eureka moment for that type?? Being an ex army type maybe he just doent respond to being told what to think....if you leave him alone completely he may feel left out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antidote Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 Tell him he is going in a home unless he changes. That should do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antidote Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 I was only really aiming to convert my parents. My mum was quite easy. She was a definite no but it only took a bit of persuasion from me and my brother to get her to yes. And her crowd of pals are all hard yessers anyway so they would have done it if we hadn't. My dad on the other hand (a typical 60+ ex army type) was and still is completely unmovable. I really thought I could work on him over time but he refuses to open his mind even a little bit. And he doesn't even say why he's no, "that's just the way it is". It's so f'ing frustrating because I'm sure he'd benefit a lot from it. But there's no way in there. A lost cause in my opinion. Has anyone else dealt with someone like that? And did you have any success? What's the eureka moment for that type?? Seriously, try printing off these and place them by his favourite chair and let him digest them. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/this-britain/how-black-gold-was-hijacked-north-sea-oil-and-the-betrayal-of-scotland-518697.html http://www.sundaypost.com/news-views/politics/tories-blocked-oil-boom-in-the-clyde-heseltine-admits-1.446273 http://yes2014.net/2014/06/13/biggest-oil-field-in-the-world-lies-to-the-west-of-lewis/ He's the army type then this might float his boat. http://wingsoverscotland.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/paleface.jpg Hurry and good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewelk Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 Seriously, try printing off these and place them by his favourite chair and let him digest them. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/this-britain/how-black-gold-was-hijacked-north-sea-oil-and-the-betrayal-of-scotland-518697.html http://www.sundaypost.com/news-views/politics/tories-blocked-oil-boom-in-the-clyde-heseltine-admits-1.446273 http://yes2014.net/2014/06/13/biggest-oil-field-in-the-world-lies-to-the-west-of-lewis/ He's the army type then this might float his boat. http://wingsoverscotland.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/paleface.jpg Hurry and good luck. He's not old enough to have a favorite chair or go to a home but I'll fire off a few links to his facebook. He might go for one of them. Cheers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dillinger Posted September 15, 2014 Author Share Posted September 15, 2014 Another big one - my pal's dad, who I've had various discussions with over the years about it. Always seemed open to it, and although hes a lovely guy he has always had that "let's keep nukes in case we need to bomb the middle east" nonsense in his head. Not seen him in a while but my pal told me hes now a yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weekevie04 Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 (edited) My pal's missus - "We can't afford independance" I gave her an 'a' in there because she always pronounced it like that, too long on the west coast I say, but anyhoos, she's shifted and by jove, she has - her wee bairn holding two yes baloons is her new facebook page. I think. I don't want to as I'm trying no too get too carried away...... BUT, I think we might well win this.. and not just by creeping over the line either Edited September 15, 2014 by weekevie04 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weekevie04 Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 Haha you can't spell independence without a E. You literally can't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShedTA Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 http://www.thecourier.co.uk/news/local/dundee/dundee-united-chairman-says-yes-to-independence-1.578268 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hannibal smith Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Eyeball Paul knows https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzFRiY9faC8&app=desktop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Haha you can't spell independence without a E. You literally can't. That shit annoys Flure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Eyeball Paul knows https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzFRiY9faC8&app=desktop A chance to prove to the rest of the world that Scotland is brave. Nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossy Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 http://www.thecourier.co.uk/news/local/dundee/dundee-united-chairman-says-yes-to-independence-1.578268 Dundee has rapidly become my favourite Scottish city during this whole debate... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobydoo Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossy Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 badger off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flora MaDonald Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 It's a sad phuqqing day when the Jutes are lecturing us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hessen Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 this used to be a decent post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snoopyhill Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Dundee will hold the torch so you can all see which way to go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kumnio Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Converted two yesterday, remarkably easy. 1, Is a 60 year old woman worried about her pension, printed off the letter from HMRC, well think it was them, gave her a copy, and that was it, a few minor questions, but the Pension was the big one. 2, Is a 26 year old mum of a young kid, she was a solid No, but the scare stories were starting to irk her. She has bigger balls than most men, simple psychology of saying I was amazed she was being pushed around and she was almost there. If we can all convert a few over the next few days, we can definitely do this. FFS man, its neck and neck, no more negative thoughts, its game on, lets get this done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShedTA Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Tell you what i will have a f&cking big drink on Friday if we do do this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antidote Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Tell you what i will have a f&cking big drink on Friday if we do do this. I'll be too busy helping Alan pack his bags! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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