Freeedom - Tartan Army Message Board Jump to content

Freeedom

Member
  • Posts

    432
  • Joined

  • Last visited

Recent Profile Visitors

The recent visitors block is disabled and is not being shown to other users.

Freeedom's Achievements

  1. Would you like to explain to me how voting for the SNP is going to get us independence? They clearly don't have a clue, or any plan of action. If the SNP get hammered at the next election they will have to have a reset and listen to the thousands of independence voters that have abandoned them, they are beholden to the voters... we don't owe them anything.
  2. The only thing I'm suggesting is to not vote for the SNP if you support independence. You can make your own decision from there
  3. The best thing that can happen to the independence movement is to not vote for the SNP, don't reward bad behaviour it's the only way that the party can reset. Send them a message at the ballot box
  4. I'm in this demographic with a lot of other people. I may disagree quite a bit on policy with the likes of Hampden loon but it's pretty simple what brings us together. We want independence, we need it to be front and centre and we need to see a coherent plan of how to get there with strong leadership behind a campaign. The SNP offer none of that.
  5. This result perfectly reflects upon Sturgeons time in office, this is what she should be remembered for. But like all narcissists she's now going to spend a lot of time trying to rebrand herself in the face of a disastrous legacy. The independence movement has been left in tatters during the time of greatest opportunity, how very Scottish
  6. Yes, Keir Starmer was one of the most vocal supporter of EU membership during the referendum campaign. I hope I am correct too because it's going to expose the fragility of the SNPs shitty independence strategy. The pro EU voters that they have be corralling for the last few years will start voting for a pro EU Labour party because they are not in the least bit interested in independence.
  7. I didn't say he will take the UK back into the EU, I said that he would try to do so over the course of two terms. We know what he stands for and he will drip feed the idea that "things have changed" and that "for the best interests of the British economy, the people should have the chance to change their mind I'd they want." We know the man will say or do anything to get into power, he had to lie to win the labour leadership contest and he has lied again to get into office as PM. Once he is in power there is nothing to hold him accountable and he can do whatever he wants, and we know what it is that he wants. That's my prediction, which is based on history and the character of Keir Starmer and the neoliberals in his party. Labour WILL win, so how is that going to affect independence strategy? They will never ever grant us a referendum either.
  8. No, as usual you aren't, but I don't think at any point you've made a good faith criticism of anything I've said
  9. Time well tell. I think they will do it over the course of two terms in office. The broader question is where would it leave the independence movement? The SNP are predicating their whole argument in favour of independence on rejoining the EU (something they can't even guarantee). As far as strategy goes, it's fucking bonkers.
  10. The SNPs agenda couldn't be any clearer, where does it leave the independence campaign in Scotland when Keir Starmer starts campaigning to rejoin the EU? The party don't have two brain cells to rub together.
  11. Yeah, he'll push for it slowly. We know what he really believes. He'll say or do anything to get into office and then push his own agenda as soon as he's elected
  12. The party's focus is about rejoining the EU, not about being independent any more. Getting independence is a means to rejoin the EU, the mask is off. The party are targeting the middle class No voter of 2014 who cares about EU membership more than Scotland's independence. Those same voters will never vote for independence once starmer becomes PM and starts talking about rejoining the EU.
  13. This is a really uninteresting, semantic question that leads nowhere.
  14. Do I need to draw a Venn diagram? The demographic that includes the most people is the one where the only requirement is support for Scottish independence, and is not also predicated on other conditionals. You're not a stupid person, you perfectly well understand this but because you're so arrogant you don't care. In fact, there is nobody who is more sneering and arrogant than an enlightened centrist who uses faulty logic like "because X and Y both disagree with me, that's means Z is right.".
×
×
  • Create New...