Rory Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 On a side note biggest personal disappointment was when I turned to a mate in THE Norway game and said "see this guy Chris Iwelumo, he's actually been playing well this season and could really do well for us (had a few beers by the way) he could be like a Scottish Drogba!" Chris Iwelumo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radian_13 Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 The 2010 WC campaign not getting the play off. Burley was useless and that was a piss easy group. Norway !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jagtag Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 The 2010 WC campaign not getting the play off. Burley was useless and that was a piss easy group. Norway !!! The biggest disappointment for me was that we had the same players who came so close in such a tough group for 2008. Burley tried to make changes and failed miserably. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudScot Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 Players who were exceptional at club level but didnt quite replicate that on International stage; John Collins, Gary McAllister, Paul McStay. Not criticising them as they are some top quality players but we probably didnt qualify for enough torunaments while these guys were playing. USA 94, Euro 2000 (Okay McStay was finished then) But these are tournaments we fully should have been at given the squads we had Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marky Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 In terms of the relative success of his club career, it would have to be Archibald for me. Nicholas was obviously a big disappointment, but so was his club career. Someone mentioned Andy Gray. I think he just suffered from being around at the same time as big Joe which limited his chances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 In terms of the relative success of his club career, it would have to be Archibald for me. Nicholas was obviously a big disappointment, but so was his club career. Someone mentioned Andy Gray. I think he just suffered from being around at the same time as big Joe which limited his chances. Aye, we had a few options up front around that time. Andy Gray didn't endear himself to Big Jock either when he celebrated getting a penalty for a dive against Norway. Not that that would have stopped Jock picking him (as he did on quite a few occasions after that) but when weighing him up against somebody else, that incident would have been in the back of his mind. Although we won the game that night, Stein was not happy with Andy Gray's antics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wanderer Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 Got the Wales v Scotland game from 1985 on DVD at home, and fans seemed to spend most the 2nd half cheering for Andy Gray to get on as we really needed the goal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 Aye, we had a few options up front around that time. Andy Gray didn't endear himself to Big Jock either when he celebrated getting a penalty for a dive against Norway. Not that that would have stopped Jock picking him (as he did on quite a few occasions after that) but when weighing him up against somebody else, that incident would have been in the back of his mind. Although we won the game that night, Stein was not happy with Andy Gray's antics. 11 goals in 51 appearances, Jordan was some goal machine right enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marky Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 11 goals in 51 appearances, Jordan was some goal machine right enough. To be fair to Jordan aaid, there was a helluva lot more to his game than just goals. He did tend to score pretty important ones too. You also have to factor in the perennial inability of Scotland to produce a goal machine in the way other countries have. Even Dalglish and the Lawman's scoring ratios aren't over impressive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kps022000 Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 Eoin Jess. Never looked the same player for Scotland as he did for Aberdeen. Should have had much more caps (maybe 20 at most) and got more than his two goals . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiltedsteamer147 Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 Eoin Jess. Never looked the same player for Scotland as he did for Aberdeen. Should have had much more caps (maybe 20 at most) and got more than his two goals . Was he ever really that good for Aberdeen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the Sunnylaw Jag Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 I recently did small articles on Joe Jordan's Goals for Scotland and Eoin Jess' Scotland career on the Scotland Epistles facebook page. If you scroll down to the 7th and 8th of June you will find them. https://www.facebook.com/scotlandepistles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Gills Mcginty Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 (edited) Aye Eion Jess was that good for Aberdeen Edited June 29, 2015 by Fish Gills Mcginty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiltedsteamer147 Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 Aye Eion Jess was that good for Aberdeen I don't remember him being that good. I am getting on a bit though. Also, I'm not an Aberdeen fan. I do seem to remember his 'big' move to Coventry being a bit of a disaster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auchinyell Sox Change Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 I don't remember him being that good. I am getting on a bit though. Also, I'm not an Aberdeen fan. I do seem to remember his 'big' move to Coventry being a bit of a disaster. He was a bit of an enigma in that in some games he was on fire for AberdeenUsed to watch a lot back then Was disappointed with his games for Scotland tho ; he did seem like a wee loon v Baresi at ibrox He should have prob moved south sooner ; as stagnating in a (by then) declining Dons team ; went to Bradford initially I think He had a leg break v Clydebank - not sure if that had affected his progress He was scoring 3s and 4s in games when he first came on scene He excelled with some of the more cultured players about him ; Bett,Connor,gilhaus,mason,nicholAs etc Not so sure he was as suited to the hard graft and industrial football Him and Booth seemed to struggle up against brown , McPherson etc when it really mattered Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auchinyell Sox Change Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 My nominations are Steve Nicol Kevin McNaughton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marky Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 I'm not saying Jess wasn't a decent player, but does he deserve to mentioned in the same breath as the likes of Archibald, Nicholas, Gray, Hansen and the like? I mean ultimately he achieved the square root of eff all at club level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiltedsteamer147 Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 He was a bit of an enigma in that in some games he was on fire for Aberdeen Used to watch a lot back then Was disappointed with his games for Scotland tho ; he did seem like a wee loon v Baresi at ibrox He should have prob moved south sooner ; as stagnating in a (by then) declining Dons team ; went to Bradford initially I think He had a leg break v Clydebank - not sure if that had affected his progress He was scoring 3s and 4s in games when he first came on scene He excelled with some of the more cultured players about him ; Bett,Connor,gilhaus,mason,nicholAs etc Not so sure he was as suited to the hard graft and industrial football Him and Booth seemed to struggle up against brown , McPherson etc when it really mattered He went to Coventry and then returned to Aberdeen before going to Bradford. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auchinyell Sox Change Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 He went to Coventry and then returned to Aberdeen before going to Bradford.Thanks for that ; things getting hazy these days Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auchinyell Sox Change Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 I'm not saying Jess wasn't a decent player, but does he deserve to mentioned in the same breath as the likes of Archibald, Nicholas, Gray, Hansen and the like? I mean ultimately he achieved the square root of eff all at club level. Likely notLeague cup winner as a teenager tho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 I recently did small articles on Joe Jordan's Goals for Scotland and Eoin Jess' Scotland career on the Scotland Epistles facebook page. If you scroll down to the 7th and 8th of June you will find them. https://www.facebook.com/scotlandepistles Short article is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 To be fair to Jordan aaid, there was a helluva lot more to his game than just goals. He did tend to score pretty important ones too. You also have to factor in the perennial inability of Scotland to produce a goal machine in the way other countries have. Even Dalglish and the Lawman's scoring ratios aren't over impressive. I'll agre with you on Dalglish but Law's record of 30 in 55 is pretty decent at International level. IMHO Jordan gets accorded a legendary status because he scored memorable goals - in particular against Czechoslovakia and in the WC finals which is far in excess of his actual overall contribution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marky Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 I'll agre with you on Dalglish but Law's record of 30 in 55 is pretty decent at International level. IMHO Jordan gets accorded a legendary status because he scored memorable goals - in particular against Czechoslovakia and in the WC finals which is far in excess of his actual overall contribution. Fair points aaid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirkintoddy Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 Kevin Kyle v New Zealand in Berties day. Looked like he was picked from the pub just afore game.Thing was we had NO ONE else !!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bzzzz Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 Steven Fletcher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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