Bristolhibby Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 Some brilliant investment in the area of tidal renewable power. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-31682529 Some cracking comments as well. Forget HS2. This is the real investment for Britain. More, please - much more. Imagine if we had 20 or 30 of these beauties. The UK is an appallingly backward place these days. The Germans are aiming for a totaly renewable future which is astonishing.Oddly enough I think it was Mrs Thatcher who ended any interest in large scale infrastructure. After all if we needed something she claimed that capitalism would provide it to us.Turns out that capitalism couldn't give a fig if the electric lights go out. £1bn to create enough electricity for 155k homes. The government created £375bn in QE and bought bonds from the banks with it. Perhaps they should have spared a little for worthwhile projects such as this. Or would that be just, anti-capitalist? J Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 Heard this discussed on the radio there. Very encouraging especially after what I posted on the Longannet thread... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biffer Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 "Unveiled" is pushing it - makes it sound as if they're already built. The tech is still unproven, and this is a high risk investment, albeit one that should be made. Presenting it as a done deal is setting yourself up for later ridicule though. Why can't they find the same amount of money for CCS? That's a substantially more exportable technology. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auld_Reekie Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 £1billion? 125k homes? Hmmmm. I have it in my head that that is a pretty high sum of money for the equivalent of half of Edinburgh. Anyone know they rough equivalents for other renewables projects? That said, I love these large scale renewables projects and would like to see us invest more than we do currently. Looks a pretty cool project. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biffer Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 £1billion? 125k homes? Hmmmm. I have it in my head that that is a pretty high sum of money for the equivalent of half of Edinburgh. Anyone know they rough equivalents for other renewables projects? That said, I love these large scale renewables projects and would like to see us invest more than we do currently. Looks a pretty cool project. There will be a lot of non-recoverable engineering cost in that amount given this is a first time thing. This kind of tidal barrage suffers from the same difficulty as CCA in that it's not much use building smaller plants and then scaling up, you've got to do the bigger ones to prove it properly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShedTA Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 Was speaking to a dutch guy I know who was into tidal renewables. invested a lot of time and money and the thing was basically dropped post referendum. Salmond was a big backer but sturgeon dropped it pretty soon after the no vote. needless to say he was praying for scottish independence which didnt happen. its a nightmare because effectively Scotland was leading the world in that specialism and now it will just be left to others to develop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auld_Reekie Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 Was speaking to a dutch guy I know who was into tidal renewables. invested a lot of time and money and the thing was basically dropped post referendum. Salmond was a big backer but sturgeon dropped it pretty soon after the no vote. needless to say he was praying for scottish independence which didnt happen. its a nightmare because effectively Scotland was leading the world in that specialism and now it will just be left to others to develop. Any more information on that - has there been a strategic move inside the SNP Government to refocus on core services rather than invest in renewables? Would be hugely disappointing if that is the case - one of the best things the SNP has done since 2007 is try and get more momentum behind renewables. Would be interesting to know if Sturgeon is moving away from that to try and shore up other areas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larky Masher Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 "Unveiled" is pushing it - makes it sound as if they're already built. The tech is still unproven, and this is a high risk investment, albeit one that should be made. Presenting it as a done deal is setting yourself up for later ridicule though. Why can't they find the same amount of money for CCS? That's a substantially more exportable technology. Slightly cheaper than the nuclear option................ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 (edited) Any more information on that - has there been a strategic move inside the SNP Government to refocus on core services rather than invest in renewables? Would be hugely disappointing if that is the case - one of the best things the SNP has done since 2007 is try and get more momentum behind renewables. Would be interesting to know if Sturgeon is moving away from that to try and shore up other areas. I linked the story below in another thread... http://www.heraldscotland.com/politics/scottish-politics/sturgeon-demands-more-support-for-wind-power-but-confusion-grows-over-sco.119626631 If despite all the focus on renewables they are still only able to deliver 5% of the required electricity then we really need to shore up traditional methods of power generation... Edited March 2, 2015 by Toepoke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giblet Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 Cracking project out my way all funded by local community. http://www.harlawhydro.org.uk/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biffer Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 I linked the story below in another thread... http://www.heraldscotland.com/politics/scottish-politics/sturgeon-demands-more-support-for-wind-power-but-confusion-grows-over-sco.119626631 If despite all the focus on renewables they are still only able to deliver 5% of the required electricity then we really need to shore up traditional methods of power generation... That's 5% of the UK - Scotland generates over 40% of its electricity from renewables. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 That's 5% of the UK - Scotland generates over 40% of its electricity from renewables. This is the problem with statistics, folk just distort them to suit their own agenda. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 That's 5% of the UK - Scotland generates over 40% of its electricity from renewables. Have to say I'm a bit confused by the article... "Ms Sturgeon yesterday highlighted figures showing renewable sources provided 44 per cent of Scotland's energy needs last year." "However, new figures from National Grid, obtained by Labour's energy spokesman Tom Greatrex, showed the level dipping dramatically on some days.... ...between December 25 and 28 it accounted for five per cent" Is it suggesting that when the weather isn't conducive to wind generation we're right up against it?... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 Have to say I'm a bit confused by the article... "Ms Sturgeon yesterday highlighted figures showing renewable sources provided 44 per cent of Scotland's energy needs last year." "However, new figures from National Grid, obtained by Labour's energy spokesman Tom Greatrex, showed the level dipping dramatically on some days.... ...between December 25 and 28 it accounted for five per cent" Is it suggesting that when the weather isn't conducive to wind generation we're right up against it?... To me, that article seems to be more about Labour and SNP arguing with each other rather than a proper discussion about electricity generation. IMO as soon as that happens you can pretty much ignore any numbers they start spouting. You just know they will be manipulated to suit their own agenda. Sounds like Greatrex wants to build a new nuclear power plant. Can't see the SNP ever agreeing to that. He also seems to be saying that if Scotland becomes independent electricity will stoop flowing across the border. Maybe he thinks that we wont be able to use volts in Scotland because all the volts belong to England? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShedTA Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Any more information on that - has there been a strategic move inside the SNP Government to refocus on core services rather than invest in renewables? Would be hugely disappointing if that is the case - one of the best things the SNP has done since 2007 is try and get more momentum behind renewables. Would be interesting to know if Sturgeon is moving away from that to try and shore up other areas. well its straight from the horses mouth. The boy was heavily involved in one of the fairly public wave power projects. funding canned straight after the referendum. he is fairly gutted TBH. invested a lot of time, money and belief in it, and he does believe it works. just needs more investment and perseverence. not in scotland unfortunately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShedTA Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Cracking project out my way all funded by local community. http://www.harlawhydro.org.uk/ wondered what this was. take my kids up there to run round the loch and have seen the works going on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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