Langtonian Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 (edited) Sorry but that's nonsense.I wish folk would stop assuming it's not hard to get on the ladder or no excuse not to There are many married,kids,mortgage,poorly paid jobs,no jobs so effort has diddly squat y do with it Edited July 28, 2015 by Langtonian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Sorry but that's nonsense.I wish folk would stop assuming it's not hard to get on the ladder or no excuse not to There are many married,kids,mortgage,poorly paid jobs,no jobs so effort has diddly squat y do with it Spot on. Some right numpties on here at times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveyDenoon Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Sorry but that's nonsense.I wish folk would stop assuming it's not hard to get on the ladder or no excuse not to There are many married,kids,mortgage,poorly paid jobs,no jobs so effort has diddly squat y do with it I was referring to those who moan about there not being opportunities to get on the ladder because of the perception that all away tickets go the some sort of "elite" first. That's just not the case. Of course things like work, wives, kids, mortgages, etc can get in the way. I know that only too well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deecie Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Sorry but that's nonsense.I wish folk would stop assuming it's not hard to get on the ladder or no excuse not to There are many married,kids,mortgage,poorly paid jobs,no jobs so effort has diddly squat y do with it It's not hard, it's all down to choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dandydunn Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Sorry but that's nonsense.I wish folk would stop assuming it's not hard to get on the ladder or no excuse not to There are many married,kids,mortgage,poorly paid jobs,no jobs so effort has diddly squat y do with it It's not hard as has been proven many times. If you want to get on it,you will,if you want to moan about not having any points when there's a big game that you can't get a ticket,well that's just tough shit. People choose various ways of life. I've got a missus,3 kids,a house to look after,a wedding to pay for next etc,etc. I have points just now,but if I don't have enough for big games next campaign,that's entirely down to me changing my preferences. No one else's fault but my own. There is still 2 very easy points on the list,if people chose not to go,then so be it,but you can't pick and choose when you fancy and see people going every game losing out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big clarky Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 I go to every game cause im as rich asFCUK ELITE TEN POINTER LIFES GREAT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willie Miller's tache Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 I go to every game cause im as rich asFCUK ELITE TEN POINTER LIFES GREAT Every other Scotland fan wishes you didn't go to every game! ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Langtonian Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 It's not hard as has been proven many times. If you want to get on it,you will,if you want to moan about not having any points when there's a big game that you can't get a ticket,well that's just tough shit. People choose various ways of life. I've got a missus,3 kids,a house to look after,a wedding to pay for next etc,etc. I have points just now,but if I don't have enough for big games next campaign,that's entirely down to me changing my preferences. No one else's fault but my own. There is still 2 very easy points on the list,if people chose not to go,then so be it,but you can't pick and choose when you fancy and see people going every game losing out. It is hard for some for reasons I have cited and which you agreed on previously.Not a case of if you want to get on with it, you will.I,m pretty sure before someone gets married,buys a house,has kids,buys a car thinks beforehand,nah cant do that,if i do will struggle to get on the points ladder and get tickets for scotland games some time in the future. This its easy to get on the ladder,no excuses comes up regularly when away games come around,no doubt it is for some but sometimes we have to accept it isn,t for others for many reasons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goozay Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 It is hard for some for reasons I have cited and which you agreed on previously.Not a case of if you want to get on with it, you will.I,m pretty sure before someone gets married,buys a house,has kids,buys a car thinks beforehand,nah cant do that,if i do will struggle to get on the points ladder and get tickets for scotland games some time in the future. This its easy to get on the ladder,no excuses comes up regularly when away games come around,no doubt it is for some but sometimes we have to accept it isn,t for others for many reasons Life isn't fair. But the fairest way to distribute tickets for away games when demand exceeds supply is to reward the fans who have been to most of the last 10 away games. Unless you've got a fairer solution for distributing tickets for over-subscribed matches - you're just posting for the sake of posting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EIFA10 Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 (edited) Life isn't fair. But the fairest way to distribute tickets for away games when demand exceeds supply is to reward the fans who have been to most of the last 10 away games. Unless you've got a fairer solution for distributing tickets for over-subscribed matches - you're just posting for the sake of posting. Agree. I have been there - like many others - you've booked your travel and accommodation, but can't get a ticket due to a lack of points (I had just joined the SSC so had zero). To add to the frustration, you get a ticket through unofficial channels, spent all that money following your team, but you are no better off points wise for the next away game. It's not a great position to be in, but seeing the wood from the trees, the points system is the fairest way of doing it.I have a reasonable number of away points now, which should mean I can get a ticket for most away games. But I know that these will start to take a hit, with changes in personal circumstances. Will I feel as equally entitled to an away ticket as a 9 or 10 pointer, when I hit 0 or 1 points? Nope. Will I feel hacked off at not getting an official ticket (and away point)? Yup. But that's my problem, not the SFA's, other fans etc. Edited July 29, 2015 by EIFA10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Langtonian Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 Life isn't fair. But the fairest way to distribute tickets for away games when demand exceeds supply is to reward the fans who have been to most of the last 10 away games. Unless you've got a fairer solution for distributing tickets for over-subscribed matches - you're just posting for the sake of posting. Eh,where have I disagreed wih ticket distribution?The system in place is the best and fairest ,one that actually benefits me.I,m merely pointing out that contrary to the belief of some who think its easy or there are no reasons/exuses for many not being able to get on/up the ladder/acrue points when it actually is,so you continue posting for the sake of posting or read posts first before responding Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotsgary1 Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 Eh,where have I disagreed wih ticket distribution?The system in place is the best and fairest ,one that actually benefits me.I,m merely pointing out that contrary to the belief of some who think its easy or there are no reasons/exuses for many not being able to get on/up the ladder/acrue points when it actually is,so you continue posting for the sake of posting or read posts first before responding I fully agree with your posts mate.. Times are hard mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jagtag Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 Eh,where have I disagreed wih ticket distribution?The system in place is the best and fairest ,one that actually benefits me.I,m merely pointing out that contrary to the belief of some who think its easy or there are no reasons/exuses for many not being able to get on/up the ladder/acrue points when it actually is,so you continue posting for the sake of posting or read posts first before responding I do think though that when people post about how easy it is they are referring to people who continually complain how unfair it is every time a big game comes along where tickets are difficult to get. then we get the posts claiming tickets should be first come first served, that home games should count towards away games and suggesting just about any scheme that suits their own circumstances. As has been said it is about choice. The points system is by far the best and fairest way to allocate tickets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotsgary1 Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 Yes it is the fairest way of course. But its not easy when you are a big Scotland fan with a family who are as well !!! Then you have people on this board bragging how much money they may have or maybe a wind up either way it dosent make it easier to get tickets for the family. Yes its not easy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deecie Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 No, it is easy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotsgary1 Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 No, it is easy. I shall respond to you this time.. Why is it ma friend ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deecie Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 I shall respond to you this time.. Why is it ma friend ??? You buy a ticket. You get a point. You have a foot on the ladder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotsgary1 Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 You buy a ticket. You get a point. You have a foot on the ladder. I see your point obviously... I surely dont need to tell you that its very expensive to buy a membership for four people and buy tickets then go to away games. ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deecie Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 I see your point obviously... I surely dont need to tell you that its very expensive to buy a membership for four people and buy tickets then go to away games. ??? If away games are prohibitively expensive then you don't actually need any points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotsgary1 Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 If away games are prohibitively expensive then you don't actually need any points. Clearly you have missed the point of my comments. Na bother I shall end this pointless conversation now. All the best now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dandydunn Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 I see your point obviously... I surely dont need to tell you that its very expensive to buy a membership for four people and buy tickets then go to away games. ??? But that's where you sacrifice something else in your life so you can go to the games. When I was going to away games as regularly as I could, I never had a lads holiday,week off work for the sake of it,weekends away with the bird etc because I wanted to use my holidays and cash for away games. I sacrificed nights out so I could pay for a trip,I don't do it as often now as I have other responsibilities,so I sacrifice the games for my children's sake,to make sure they are catered for. You can't have everything is this life and if all you want is tickets for the big games,then it's simply not possible many of the times. Ps I'm sure I heard you could get a megabus for about a tenner for the England/Nigeria games. Factor in the price of a ticket,you're still less than £50. Take a packed lunch with you,few quid for food/drinks there and you could do probably 2 away games for less than £200. That's an easy way to gather up points required,so in conclusion........... Yes,it's easy to get on the ladder. You just have to want to commit to it and realise you may have to miss out on something else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TA Torr Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 I managed to do the Ireland game for not much. Flight out Sat morning was £28, flight back straight after was £8, 10 euro airport bus in Dublin, airport parking was £15 and didn't drink as I had the car. Did it to get to the game of course but also to keep my points up. Had been away in Poland, and two stag doo abroad in within the year of my daughter being born so only I (well the wife) could justify it was keeping costs and time away to a minimum. If there's a will there's a way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 It is really difficult to work out what points will be needed. Before the 1st away game we have the following games/potential games: Sep - Georgia Oct - Gibraltar Nov - play off or potentially 0, 1 or 2 away games March - home or away game May/June pre tournament games/tour June - potential finals in France September - home or away on no game before Malta So depending on games there could be up to 10 new away games before Malta. We might have 7 games in France if we get all the way to the final. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 You buy a ticket. You get a point. You have a foot on the ladder. Did you deliberately miss out the "Go to the game" step? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackcountry jock Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 This is probably a stupid question but when we qualify for France will we get a point for any tickets bought through the sfa or because it's a finals will points be frozen sorry if I sound thick lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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