adamntg Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 1/2 Old Firm 3/4 Aberdeen/Hearts 5 Hibs 6 Dundee Utd The rest are too close together to really separate. Maybe the wee team are seventh. Everyone else has the capacity for home league gates under 3,000. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hannibal smith Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 On a serious note, Aberdeen have the biggest stadium, but hearts probably the most fans, Aberdeen have had the biggest achievements and in my lifetime are head and shoulders above hearts, who are a good bit in front of hibs. Taking out the old firm, who's next? Probably a load of teams pretty close? Dundee, Dundee United, Motherwell, Killie. If you are going by stadium size and trophies then the only other club in double figures for major trophies are Queen's Park so they are the 5th biggest behind the old firm, Aberdeen and Hearts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamntg Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 If you are going by stadium size and trophies then the only other club in double figures for major trophies are Queen's Park so they are the 5th biggest behind the old firm, Aberdeen and Hearts Those criteria make Vale of Leven and Renton bigger clubs than St Johnstone and Partick Thistle. So clearly correct. I didn't realise Hearts had more leagues and Scottish Cups than Aberdeen. It's only the Cup Winners Vase that could maybe give Aberdeen the edge. A tie I would say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hannibal smith Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 Those criteria make Vale of Leven and Renton bigger clubs than St Johnstone and Partick Thistle. So clearly correct. I didn't realise Hearts had more leagues and Scottish Cups than Aberdeen. It's only the Cup Winners Vase that could maybe give Aberdeen the edge. A tie I would say. I wasn't being entirely serious Hearts are 300 points ahead of Aberdeen in the all time league table and 659 ahead of Hibs. I think that answers the question. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parklife Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 With regards to fan base i'd say that Hearts have a lager regular, more loyal fan base. Where as Aberdeen have a larger latent support who'll only turn out now and again (eg 50k at the League Cup Final). This is no doubt borne from the 80's, when folk were drawn towards Aberdeen in the same way that kids will be drawn towards Celtic just now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parklife Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 I wasn't being entirely serious Hearts are 300 points ahead of Aberdeen in the all time league table and 659 ahead of Hibs. I think that answers the question. ? That all time league title should join the Tennents 6's on your honours list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hannibal smith Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 That all time league title should join the Tennents 6's on your honours list. What title? there are teams ahead of us. And the sixes is not on the list anymore ? Mad Budge Out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parklife Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 What title? there are teams ahead of us. Was just a joke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamntg Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 With regards to fan base i'd say that Hearts have a lager regular, more loyal fan base. Where as Aberdeen have a larger latent support who'll only turn out now and again (eg 50k at the League Cup Final). This is no doubt borne from the 80's, when folk were drawn towards Aberdeen in the same way that kids will be drawn towards Celtic just now. 50k at the league cup was desperation wasn't it? Much like Utd taking 29,000 to the Scottish Cup in 2010. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan cake Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 hertz, aberdeen have never won a world conflict single handed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hannibal smith Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 hertz, aberdeen have never won a world conflict single handed Congratulations Well done on your first post about hearts that doesn't involve Rix or Thomson. What is this world conflict you speak of Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iainmac1 Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 Congratulations Well done on your first post about hearts that doesn't involve Rix or Thomson. What is this world conflict you speak of WW2. Celtic won that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parklife Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 50k at the league cup was desperation wasn't it? Much like Utd taking 29,000 to the Scottish Cup in 2010. Dunno, maybe we'll find out if we get to another final soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hannibal smith Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 50k at the league cup was desperation wasn't it? Much like Utd taking 29,000 to the Scottish Cup in 2010. How many did United take to the one against saints a few years ago. I remember hearts selling 35k for the 2006 one without it even going to a public sale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TartanJon Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 Aberdeen have a much bigger away support and if Hearts have a few seasons of mediocre shiteyness without the threat of administration I don't doubt for a minute they will drop to below 10,000 fans.Did Hearts ever get above that figure before Romanov if they were playing a diddy team ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMcoolJ Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 I wasn't being entirely serious Hearts are 300 points ahead of Aberdeen in the all time league table and 659 ahead of Hibs. I think that answers the question. Those points should be stripped - many were "earned" during a period of financial doping....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan cake Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 Those points should be stripped - many were "earned" during a period of financial doping....... nothing to see here, 5-1 etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hannibal smith Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 Aberdeen have a much bigger away support and if Hearts have a few seasons of mediocre shiteyness without the threat of administration I don't doubt for a minute they will drop to below 10,000 fans.Did Hearts ever get above that figure before Romanov if they were playing a diddy team ? Yes hearts were averaging 14-15k in the late nineties and over 12k in the few years before Romanov. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMcoolJ Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 nothing to see here, 5-1 etc What is 5-1? Scoreline for this Saturday? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hannibal smith Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 What is 5-1? Scoreline for this Saturday? 2012 cup final result. Although financial doping or not it was the Scottish cup!!!!! We could have fielded our ladies side and hibs would still not have won. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMcoolJ Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 2012 cup final result. Although financial doping or not it was the Scottish cup!!!!! We could have fielded our ladies side and hibs would still not have won. I know what it is!! Just wasn't sure why he brought it up.... Hearing reports McGinn is a doubt for Saturday. Based on our last two performances, we will be completely lost without him. I'm hoping it's just mind games and he's ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TartanJon Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 Yes hearts were averaging 14-15k in the late nineties and over 12k in the few years before Romanov. I forgot that was the pieman/STV era where you nearly went bust as well before *cough* Romanov took over. I'm 45 and the only time since I was born where Hearts have been what you would class as a "big team" they have been a financial basket case.They've cheated their way to being a disputed third biggest team in Scotland. TBF Hearts have won more second tier Championships than Aberdeen so that might give them the edge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hannibal smith Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 I forgot that was the pieman/STV era where you nearly went bust as well before *cough* Romanov took over. I'm 45 and the only time since I was born where Hearts have been what you would class as a "big team" they have been a financial basket case.They've cheated their way to being a disputed third biggest team in Scotland. TBF Hearts have won more second tier Championships than Aberdeen so that might give them the edge Hearts had a lot of good seasons in the mid to late 80s and early 90s under Mercer including few second places. And we never nearly went bust before Romanov, we nearly sold tynecastle to pay off the debt. Are you just making this up as you go along? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parklife Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 I know what it is!! Just wasn't sure why he brought it up.... Hearing reports McGinn is a doubt for Saturday. Based on our last two performances, we will be completely lost without him. I'm hoping it's just mind games and he's ok. I was hoping that him coming off on Saturday was mainly a precaution as he had only just trained on the Friday last week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deecie Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 Hearts had a lot of good seasons in the mid to late 80s and early 90s under Mercer including few second places. And we never nearly went bust before Romanov, we nearly sold tynecastle to pay off the debt. Are you just making this up as you go along? Dons were alright in the 80's. Never won the Tennents 6's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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