Redz Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 I'm open to hearing the reasons of the spfl board. In this current information vacuum it is all a bit strange. As for the conflict of interest, I would say the exact same thing if rangers representatives were complicit in dishing out fines to other spl clubs. It's not a healthy situation for competitors to be in a position to exert decision making powers over one another because there will always be an apprehension of bias. It's a basic component of natural justice. Genuine question Bruce. Is this how the rule book say's it should pan out? I have no idea. *Shootie in for a few of you surely* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flure Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 If it's always been the case why has it just been decided by the spfl board? It seems to have arisen from thin air. I highlighted those 3 teams because they are 3 of rangers competitors who are making the decision. A judge can't hear a case if there is an apprehension of bias. This is a clear case of that - not saying it's actual bias but there's obviously an issue in competitors deciding whether one another should be fined or not. I think any fair minded person would agree with that. When did those three teams start playing in the lower leagues? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macy37 Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 If it's always been the case why has it just been decided by the spfl board? It seems to have arisen from thin air. I highlighted those 3 teams because they are 3 of rangers competitors who are making the decision. A judge can't hear a case if there is an apprehension of bias. This is a clear case of that - not saying it's actual bias but there's obviously an issue in competitors deciding whether one another should be fined or not. I think any fair minded person would agree with that. Whit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamntg Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 If it's always been the case why has it just been decided by the spfl board? It seems to have arisen from thin air. I highlighted those 3 teams because they are 3 of rangers competitors who are making the decision. A judge can't hear a case if there is an apprehension of bias. This is a clear case of that - not saying it's actual bias but there's obviously an issue in competitors deciding whether one another should be fined or not. I think any fair minded person would agree with that. Actually Raith Rovers and Alloa Athletic are Rangers' competitors. I'd direct my wrath at them if I were you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Langtonian Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 Why wait 2 1/2 years to chase this debt? It's not like it's PPI they didn't know about... no better time than now imo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddardStark Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 (edited) it will go to court and I imagine the SPFL will lose. So lets see what they come up with. My guess it will be straightforward no payment, no retention of honours. Then we will see its nothing more than a money grab. Edited December 17, 2014 by EddardStark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamntg Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 Have Rangers still got money for lawyers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debian Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 How can newco SPFL chase newco Rangers for a debt for oldco Rangers that was raised when newco SPFL was oldco SPL and oldco SFL? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debian Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 Additionally in the judgement from 2013 from Nimmo Smith, he decided: 'The findings also stated that Rangers' current owners should not be held responsible for any breaches made by the previous company' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddardStark Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 You can just imagine the meetings on how to generate additional revenues. Neil - any growth opportunities in the next few months? aye . rangers :-)) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jailender Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 You can just imagine the meetings on how to generate additional revenues. Neil - any growth opportunities in the next few months? aye . rangers :-)) Not words you would expect to see in the same sentence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty CTA Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 SPFL have a significant financial problem due to lack of sponsors so I imagine is one way of plugging that gap. It looks too contrived and probably means the SPFL will use the old club new club card as a tactic. It will be interesting to see how this develops because the SPFL or whatever form it was in have already withheld funds from Rangers for a range of issues. Another way of looking at is it is part of a broadside against the current regime. This, plus Ally's pay off and a potential failed IPO for £8m in Jan may force the regime into a corner and by releasing this statement on the stock exchange they are trying to get fans on board for their cause. Hence the name. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred_Zeppelin Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fringo Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbcmfc Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 No "Big Jig" or Ally? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stocky Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 Additionally in the judgement from 2013 from Nimmo Smith, he decided: 'The findings also stated that Rangers' current owners should not be held responsible for any breaches made by the previous company' as I understand the new rangers were to pay off all FOOTBALL debts of old rangers, the fine is a football fine is it not, and therefore there is a case to be made that new rangers owe this FOOTBALL debt to the league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cove_Sheep Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 Sales of this will sort them out... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 Sales of this will sort them out... They'll have half and half scarfs next Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jailender Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 That will fair swell the coffers at £0.75 for every £100 sold Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redstevie007 Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 (edited) Oops Edited December 17, 2014 by redstevie007 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalgety Bay TA Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 Cove showing his true colours by being on the Rangers mailing list.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TartanJon Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 Are Rangers the first team to commemorate playing in a semi final ? Will they be adding another star to their jersey to mark the occasion ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Col Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 Are Rangers the first team to commemorate playing in a semi final ? some clever marketing they could have a tie in with Pele and his pills? or maybe not cos Peles been ill recently hasnt he? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fringo Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 some clever marketing they could have a tie in with Pele and his pills? or maybe not cos Peles been ill recently hasnt he? Maybe saving that for league games - to make sure they go up ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 Are Rangers the first team to commemorate playing in a semi final ? Will they be adding another star to their jersey to mark the occasion ? Think we had T-Shirts vs Ayr at Hampden. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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