Hertsscot Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 I've just seen this clip doing the rounds. Anyone know when it was from? I can understand the guy's frustration but that's no way for anyone to behave in a public meeting, let alone a Labour MEP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flora MaDonald Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 Don't know where that was. He always struck me as quite decent (for them). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stapes Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 Yes, have always thought he was one if the more sensible Labourites. Tbh, I think politicians have every right to do that if they're being unfairly harassed. Some constituents, and media folks, are t0ssers, and shouldn't just expect to be able to say what they want. I'm guessing if we see the whole video it would become clear why he did it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scunnered Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 Yes, have always thought he was one if the more sensible Labourites. Tbh, I think politicians have every right to do that if they're being unfairly harassed. Some constituents, and media folks, are t0ssers, and shouldn't just expect to be able to say what they want. I'm guessing if we see the whole video it would become clear why he did it. A very sensible point. Now have a look at the readers comments on the Wings story: http://wingsoverscotland.com/labour-reaches-out-to-voters-again/ The mob mentality surrounded Yes at the moment is frightening. Much akin to the general reaction of someone posting on Facebook that they think someone in their area is a child abuser or "Pyoor nicks dugs fur fights man". Most objectivity has been left in September. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flure Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 Yes, have always thought he was one if the more sensible Labourites. Tbh, I think politicians have every right to do that if they're being unfairly harassed. Some constituents, and media folks, are t0ssers, and shouldn't just expect to be able to say what they want. I'm guessing if we see the whole video it would become clear why he did it. Aye. It doesn't look good. But depending on what had led up to it - it might actually be quite restrained. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex-Whitfield Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 A very sensible point. Now have a look at the readers comments on the Wings story: http://wingsoverscotland.com/labour-reaches-out-to-voters-again/ The mob mentality surrounded Yes at the moment is frightening. Much akin to the general reaction of someone posting on Facebook that they think someone in their area is a child abuser or "Pyoor nicks dugs fur fights man". Most objectivity has been left in September. I've read through the comments and don't see this "mob mentality" you talk about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 I've read through the comments and don't see this "mob mentality" you talk about. I always laugh at the mob mentality jibe. Nobody remember the No voters celebrating in George Square? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mariokempes56 Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 Must say I read all the wings comments and "mob mentality" in no way sprung to kind. In no way, none. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 It sprung up for me, as i understand it myself and Scunnered are educated to at least an undergraduate level in human behaviour. In much the same way as mathematicians and non mathematicians look at this one group will see nonsense the other will see something of elegant beauty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iainmac1 Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 Mob mentality sounds like a Daily Record editorial. Wings- The nurse may be an actress. Daily Record- Wings vile haterd, bucket loads of bile etc etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hertsscot Posted March 1, 2015 Author Share Posted March 1, 2015 A very sensible point. Now have a look at the readers comments on the Wings story: http://wingsoverscotland.com/labour-reaches-out-to-voters-again/ The mob mentality surrounded Yes at the moment is frightening. Much akin to the general reaction of someone posting on Facebook that they think someone in their area is a child abuser or "Pyoor nicks dugs fur fights man". Most objectivity has been left in September. Classic whataboutery. I don't know what happened up to that point and as I've said maybe his frustration is understandable. What is unacceptable however is his (over)reaction. Wings readers are not eleted public servants nor are they paid from the public purse, Mr Martin is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scunnered Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 Must say I read all the wings comments and "mob mentality" in no way sprung to kind. In no way, none. I see it everyday my passionate friend... Its not exclusive to the Yes boys and girls so rest easy... Although its much more prevalent*. * Possibly in part to a large portion of No voters being too old to use the internet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mariokempes56 Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 You do know what a mob is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 I like wings. I like the fact (s/)he has a healthy dose of mental flowing through his/her veins. I especially like the fact (s/)he has a hair trigger temper and at the same time has an evident talent. Shine on you crazy diamond. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scunnered Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 You do know what a mob is? I do indeed. If you need examples look no further than threads on The Rangers on here, the Wings comment sections, or the Daily Mail comments section. If you're denying there is a mob mentality among Yes supporters, attend ANY public meeting on the subject. It may shock your world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mariokempes56 Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 Montae, comparing wings with rangers threads or anything on daily mail is way beyond silly. You were specifically discussing wings regarding supposed mob mentality, so am unclear as to the point of referencing the other threads (which I avoid ). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 I read a lot of the WoS stuff and most of it is excellent. Much, much better than what our so called journalists produce. His style might not suit everybody but it's the facts he digs up that are important. He seems to have the ability to see right through what the politicians are up to. He is brilliant at tying things together from different stories sometimes months or years apart. As for the comments, to me, they seem pretty reasonable and restrained. I don't know if he moderates and censors them before they go up (must be pretty time consuming if he does) but there is plenty of stuff on the TAMB which gets far closer to "offensive" than anything I've seen on WoS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scunnered Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 Montae, comparing wings with rangers threads or anything on daily mail is way beyond silly. You were specifically discussing wings regarding supposed mob mentality, so am unclear as to the point of referencing the other threads (which I avoid ). I also referenced wings. Ok, put your objective hat on. Pick a few Wings stories, start at the oldest comment and work your way to the newest. You'll notice the pattern and tone changing progressively as the loud shouty members weigh in with their 'point'... It's clear as day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wine bibber Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 I read a lot of the WoS stuff and most of it is excellent. Much, much better than what our so called journalists produce. His style might not suit everybody but it's the facts he digs up that are important. He seems to have the ability to see right through what the politicians are up to. He is brilliant at tying things together from different stories sometimes months or years apart. As for the comments, to me, they seem pretty reasonable and restrained. I don't know if he moderates and censors them before they go up (must be pretty time consuming if he does) but there is plenty of stuff on the TAMB which gets far closer to "offensive" than anything I've seen on WoS. Good post.WOS became such an integral part of the yes campaign.Nothing is ever 100% accurate where not all the evidence is available.But it's questioning of Westminster's so called facts was illuminating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mariokempes56 Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 I'm out.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 I also referenced wings. Ok, put your objective hat on. Pick a few Wings stories, start at the oldest comment and work your way to the newest. You'll notice the pattern and tone changing progressively as the loud shouty members weigh in with their 'point'... It's clear as day. Do the "loud shouty" folk always wait for the sensible ones to give their comments first? That seems very restrained of them. Nicola must have them well trained. You make a lot of decent sensible points on here but you also dinae half haver some pish sometimes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scunnered Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 I'm out.. Abnegation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scunnered Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 Do the "loud shouty" folk always wait for the sensible ones to give their comments first? That seems very restrained of them. Nicola must have them well trained. You make a lot of decent sensible points on here but you also dinae half haver some pish sometimes. I don't think I mentioned Nicola? What you're alluding to would be an organised mob... What I'm referring to in laymans terms would be a lynch mob. Someone also mentioned the Record above, what they and Hothersall often refer to is that Nicola has a rabid mob at their beck and call that they organise through emails and the like... Load of pish. What I'm suggesting is that when there is a large gathering of like minded Yes chaps and chapettes either at a public meeting, or on a public forum, all objectivity is lost and all it takes is one or two individuals to speak out, and it gets ugly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mariokempes56 Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 Abnegation? Na away fer a shite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scunnered Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 Na away fer a shite Hope it's a good yin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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