andreimack Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Given the fact the SNP's sole goal was to separate Scotland from the UK, and they have failed, should they now dissolve their party and let Scotland decide on a new assembly to take us forward into better integration into the UK? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddardStark Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 (edited) Given the fact the SNP's sole goal was to separate Scotland from the UK, and they have failed, should they now dissolve their party and let Scotland decide on a new assembly to take us forward into better integration into the UK? labour need to be countered in Scotland so unless the Tories and Lib Dems can recover then SNP need to remain. The PR voting system hopefully will see the emergence of smaller parties in Holyrood. Edited September 19, 2014 by EddardStark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonofoi Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Mods please ban the North British supporters who have no place on a forum for a regional football side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddardStark Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Mods please ban the North British supporters who have no place on a forum for a regional football side. aye ok... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hertsscot Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Maybe they should. Maybe they should disband for the next elections at Westminster and for Holyrood, not put up any MPs or MSPs and let whichever party is in power take full responsibility when the s*it* hits the fan and we see the consequences of last night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddardStark Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Maybe they should. Maybe they should disband for the next elections at Westminster and for Holyrood, not put up any MPs or MSPs and let whichever party is in power take full responsibility when the s*it* hits the fan and we see the consequences of last night. what shit will that be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andreimack Posted September 19, 2014 Author Share Posted September 19, 2014 labour need to be countered in Scotland so unless the Tories and Lib Dems can recover then SNP need to remain. The PR voting system hopefully will see the emergence of smaller parties in Holyrood. By smaller party's do you mean the greens Conservative or the Scottish Socialist party? I think the SNP are the proverbial dead duck party now and Scotland should sweep them aside and look to a more forward thinking party to unite us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonofoi Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Mods? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rasputin Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 in the past they have lost elections and no one asked them to disband, how is this any different? Just because they brought us to this opportunity for the people to stand up and be counted? It's more like the Scottish people should disband, just call ourselves the North British now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbductedbyAliens Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 45% of the people wanted indepence, and you think they should disband? I know your a troll, but your obviously not very intelligent. If there was a fair media in Scotland, Yes would have won by a big margin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andreimack Posted September 19, 2014 Author Share Posted September 19, 2014 in the past they have lost elections and no one asked them to disband, how is this any different? Just because they brought us to this opportunity for the people to stand up and be counted? It's more like the Scottish people should disband, just call ourselves the North British now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antidote Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Mods please ban the North British supporters who have no place on a forum for a regional football side. Traitors and will always will be until they're dying day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antidote Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 45% of the people wanted indepence, and you think they should disband? I know your a troll, but your obviously not very intelligent. If there was a fair media in Scotland, Yes would have won by a big margin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonofoi Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Traitors and will always will be until they're dying day. Don't know how these c.unts can look at themselves or sleep with a clear conscience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasoupblu Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Proud to have voted no proud to be Scots proud to support Scotland ALWAYS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swifty's cakes Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Proud to have voted no proud to be Scots proud to support Scotland ALWAYS We'd have had full stops in an independent country. A great opportunity missed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armchair Bob Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Surely labour should disband. After all they have established the NHS and abolished boom and bust... Unfortunately although it must be tempting for SNP politicians to stand down, they need to stay as there needs to be one or two competent politicians still out there looking out for folk. Also, this is only the first battle lost. Standing down makes that permanent, staying in place gives us another go when the 20-25% soft no voters from last night realise the unionists have sold them a pup on devo powers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andreimack Posted September 19, 2014 Author Share Posted September 19, 2014 in the past they have lost elections and no one asked them to disband, how is this any different? Just because they brought us to this opportunity for the people to stand up and be counted? It's more like the Scottish people should disband, just call ourselves the North British now. I'd sat that for a party that's only reason for existing is to separate Scotland from the Union, and who just lost. In the biggest vote ever to be given to the people of Scotland then they should accept the people's vote and retire with some grace. Apparently this is a once in a generation vote, and the Scottish electorate decided to remain part of the UK, do we need a generation of also ran's hanging about or a new vibrant Scottish political force representing the electorate moving forward having a larger voice in UK politics? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hertsscot Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 what shit will that be? I really sincerely hope it will be none but I also think that any new powers that the Establishment give out will only be those to raise taxes whilst at the same time cutting real funding. As I say I hope I'm wrong but don't tell me that it is not a possibility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antidote Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Proud to have voted no proud to be Scots proud to support Scotland ALWAYS Proud to be a traitor as you always will be. Scotland doesn't need your type of support. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rasputin Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 I'd sat that for a party that's only reason for existing is to separate Scotland from the Union, and who just lost. In the biggest vote ever to be given to the people of Scotland then they should accept the people's vote and retire with some grace. Apparently this is a once in a generation vote, and the Scottish electorate decided to remain part of the UK, do we need a generation of also ran's hanging about or a new vibrant Scottish political force representing the electorate moving forward having a larger voice in UK politics? How exactly do you get someone to represent the electorate when 45% don't want us to be part of the UK? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Russell's Lovechild Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 By smaller party's do you mean the greens Conservative or the Scottish Socialist party? I think the SNP are the proverbial dead duck party now and Scotland should sweep them aside and look to a more forward thinking party to unite us. And what party would that be? Luckily, win or lose, Scotland has party in government that looks after Scotland's interested first. The other three looks after their own interests and that will now continue as usual Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossy Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 The SNP will still win the next Scottish government elections. This wasn't a referendum about them or Salmond...although the hatred towards him is obviously going to intensify. To get 45% of the voters to vote Yes under the circumstances that we faced, is an astonishing achievement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Agreed Rossy, the SNP must continue but change tack now the independence debate has been settled. They have to fight to get the best deal for Scotland within the Union, which THE VOW doesn't look like delivering. Maybe an alliance with the other Yes Scotland parties to fight the 2015 Westminster elections will be a starting point? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Dod Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 The SNP shouldn't disband, but they should resign as a government. Today. Let the coalition of c**ts run the show. Let them privatise the NHS. Let them abolish free university education. Let them f*ck over the poor. Let them volunteer our bairns for the next war on the never ending conveyor belt. Let them take the OAP's bus passes, most of them are nawbags anyway. Let the SNP sit in opposition until the next election, and beyond if need be. They shouldn't be used as a shield against selfishness and stupidity, when their founding principle has been undermined by the very people they have been looking after these past 7 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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