Jaggy Jim Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 https://twitter.com/RichardLochhead/status/589843886358585344 Think it's the UK govt that should be reviewing it's position when it comes to EU fisheries negotiations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnW Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 Scotland doesnt have any vote on EU fishing policy ? Unfortunately that's irrelevant, it's still seen as the fault of Holyrood that the fishing industry here is not doing as well as it used to and until the SNP can address these perceptions it's always going to be an uphill task here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mariokempes56 Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 Unfortunately that's irrelevant, it's still seen as the fault of Holyrood that the fishing industry here is not doing as well as it used to and until the SNP can address these perceptions it's always going to be an uphill task here. Not getting at you. But the SNP have zero say on fishing talks but they GeT blamed .. its not a perception its ignorance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 But they will vote for him, didn't he at least save his deposit in the last election? The SNP haven't dealt very well with the fishing and that's one big issue that's killing support up here. What have the SNP done on fishing that folk are not happy about? Although in theory fishing is devolved, in reality it is controlled by EU regulations which the Scottish Government have almost no say in. I believe that at the last big EU fishing meeting the SG representative wasn't even allowed to take part in the meeting. He had to sit on the sidelines and keep his mouth shut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 Not getting at you. But the SNP have zero say on fishing talks but they GeT blamed .. its not a perception its ignorance. It's propaganda and it's not just fisher folk that are taken in by it. As we saw last September. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scunnered Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 Not getting at you. But the SNP have zero say on fishing talks but they GeT blamed .. its not a perception its ignorance. I do seem to remember seeing fishy related things in quite a few SNP manifestos over the years. Couldn't tell you what they were or if they were related to the EU right enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnW Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 It's propaganda and it's not just fisher folk that are taken in by it. As we saw last September. This Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 I do seem to remember seeing fishy related things in quite a few SNP manifestos over the years. Couldn't tell you what they were or if they were related to the EU right enough. With leaders called Sturgeon and Salmon it's hardly surprising that there might be something fishy about their policies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scunnered Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 With leaders called Sturgeon and Salmon it's hardly surprising that there might be something fishy about their policies. There's definitely something fishy about their policies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossy Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 Also Ashcroft suggested the SNP were going to win Kircaldy & Cowdenbeath (Brown's old seat) Cowdenbeath and much of central Fife voted quite strongly 'Yes' last September. Brown carried a huge personal vote in these places...it wouldn't surprise me at all that with him gone, people vote SNP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotlad Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 Cowdenbeath and much of central Fife voted quite strongly 'Yes' last September. Brown carried a huge personal vote in these places...it wouldn't surprise me at all that with him gone, people vote SNP. It amazes me how popular Gordon Brown still is in Scotland. Not with me personally - I think he's a c*nt - but a great many people still seem to think he's wonderful, in spite of everything he was responsible for. I think it is just a matter of time before Labour wheel him out again to 'save the day'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scunnered Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 It amazes me how popular Gordon Brown still is in Scotland. Not with me personally - I think he's a cockwomble - but a great many people still seem to think he's wonderful, in spite of everything he was responsible for. I think it is just a matter of time before Labour wheel him out again to 'save the day'. I attended Gordon Browns talk for the reelect Katy campaign. The audience, were sat nodding away with enthusiasm and there was me sitting on my hands fighting the urge to face palm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stocky Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 the only time i believe what Gordon Brown is saying is when the microphone is left on by accident. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giblet Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 I attended Gordon Browns talk for the reelect Katy campaign. The audience, were sat nodding away with enthusiasm and there was me sitting on my hands fighting the urge to face palm. would have some respect for Brown if he actually spoke at any public meetings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scunnered Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 would have some respect for Brown if he actually spoke at any public meetings. Well he's done at least one. I was there attempting not to face palm as I said Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teecee- Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 Brown is a dodger, when was the last time he participated in a debate? He can work a Labour crowd but useless when confronted with opposition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scunnered Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 Brown is a dodger, when was the last time he participated in a debate? He can work a Labour crowd but useless when confronted with opposition. He was confronted by SSP and SNP supporters at the meeting I mentioned... He just spoke louder. I imagine it would be the same with an opposition candidate, dodge the issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mindimoo Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 I think it is just a matter of time before Labour wheel him out again to 'save the day'. A bit of an oldie http://jeffreyhill.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341d417153ef011570f3ee36970b-pi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 I attended Gordon Browns talk for the reelect Katy campaign. The audience, were sat nodding away with enthusiasm and there was me sitting on my hands fighting the urge to face palm. That in Ardrossan? I was in the pub yards away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scunnered Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 That in Ardrossan? I was in the pub yards away. It was indeedy! You should have nipped in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 It was indeedy! You should have nipped in. I had my mates wedding that day. Hence why I was watching the Scotland Gibraltar game in pub! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flora MaDonald Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 I had my mates wedding that day. Hence why I was watching the Scotland Gibraltar game in pub! So, Brown was showing his support for the North british fitba team by speaking during the match? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 So, Brown was showing his support for the North british fitba team by speaking during the match? Think it was earlier that afternoon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scunnered Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 Think it was earlier that afternoon. Clarks meeting finished not long before the game started. I didn't hang about and had missed the first 10 minutes when I got home. Surprised Gordo didn't join you in the pub being a man of the people and all that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flora MaDonald Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 Clarks meeting finished not long before the game started. I didn't hang about and had missed the first 10 minutes when I got home. Surprised Gordo didn't join you in the pub being a man of the people and all that. That would be a difficult one for him - Gibraltar is unflinching in their support of the union. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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