Deedee Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 Jonny Gray and Ross Ford banned for 3 weeks. http://thescotlandteam.com/2015/10/13/disciplinary-update-ross-ford-and-jonny-gray/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duncan Blackheart Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 Stitch-up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hertsscot Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 The guy or panel no doubt are neutral but it's a poor system when an Australian brings the allegation. Only needs a Scot to watch for foul play in the Australia game to show that it's a system that at best is with faults and at worst is corrupt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duncan Blackheart Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 1 game for this pre-meditated punch... http://youtu.be/ffU-ANaVads Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellyman Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 Gray and Ford would have been better punching some guy as you only get a week for that , as in O'brien's case. Those bans just do not relate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristolhibby Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 I presume Scotland are immediately appealing? Pointing out the conflict of interest and the disproportionate bans for IMHO worse offences (punching). J Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pool Q Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 If Richie McCaw were to do at the weekend in the QF what either Gray or Ford did, will he receive a 3 week ban? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deedee Posted October 14, 2015 Author Share Posted October 14, 2015 https://vine.co/v/eE6zmmtg3T6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilScotsman Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 We're appealing the length of the ban, apparently. Interestingly, the referee stated that after the performance review process he was happy he dealt with the situation appropriately, i.e. no foul play was involved. Referees' opinions cannot form part of their submission though! Also, what kind of Q.C. manages to spell 'descended' with the 's' but 'descent' without it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pool Q Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 At best the there will be a reduction in the length of the ban, neither of them are going to be available for Sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McVinceSCT Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 Are you guys optimistic about this game or is it going to be a 15+ points defeat? I couldn't watch many games but from what i've see Australia look very strong! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deedee Posted October 16, 2015 Author Share Posted October 16, 2015 Not that optimistic but i don`t think it`s a foregone conclusion that we`re out already. Need Australia to have a bad day though. Looking forward to the trip to Twickenham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pool Q Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 The odds I've seen have Australia by 15-18 which looks about as good as we can hope for. Gray and Ford will be missed, and the bench really is down to the bare bones. Something had to be done about the defensive frailty in midfield, and I can see why Scott has been dropped, but we do look a bit lightweight there. If we pick up early injuries in certain positions (lock and hooker in particular) it could be a long game. Cowan in for Wilson to try and compete with the mobility of their back row has a logic to it too, ignoring the fact that we went into this with just one open side on the squad. All the best to the team, be an incredible achievement for them to get a win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pool Q Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 ...on the other hand, Folau and (in particular) Pocock bring out is a huge bonus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biffer Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 The odds I've seen have Australia by 15-18 which looks about as good as we can hope for. Gray and Ford will be missed, and the bench really is down to the bare bones. Something had to be done about the defensive frailty in midfield, and I can see why Scott has been dropped, but we do look a bit lightweight there. If we pick up early injuries in certain positions (lock and hooker in particular) it could be a long game. Cowan in for Wilson to try and compete with the mobility of their back row has a logic to it too, ignoring the fact that we went into this with just one open side on the squad. All the best to the team, be an incredible achievement for them to get a win. Scott's not dropped. he's injured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pool Q Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 Scott's not dropped. he's injured. That's what they have gone with on the media. I heard on Monday that Cotter and Taylor had identified him as the defensive weak link and that he wouldn't be in the squad this weekend either way. I believe his injury is marginal, if Cotter was desperate for Scott to be involved he'd make it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biffer Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 That's what they have gone with on the media. I heard on Monday that Cotter and Taylor had identified him as the defensive weak link and that he wouldn't be in the squad this weekend either way. I believe his injury is marginal, if Cotter was desperate for Scott to be involved he'd make it. So they're protecting his feelings? Give it a rest, it's professional sport, if you want to drop someone, you drop them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pool Q Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 So they're protecting his feelings? Give it a rest, it's professional sport, if you want to drop someone, you drop them. OK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 Twitter suggests appeal upheld and Grey and Ford can play tomorrow ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 Confirmed Scottish Rugby @Scotlandteam 16m16 minutes ago BREAKING: Ford & Gray are free to play with immediate effect after Scottish Rugby successfully appealed 3-week ban. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biffer Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 World rugby are looking like a bunch of complete arseholes over discipline. Something has to change. Delighted if they're allowed to play tomorrow - if we are actually allowed to change the team. Lineups are meant to be finalised 48 hours before kickoff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 Tom English @TomEnglishSport 4m4 minutes ago To various: Scotland can change their team if they wish. Lots of previews getting rewritten. Spare a thought for the humble scribblers... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deedee Posted October 17, 2015 Author Share Posted October 17, 2015 Did the SRU even appeal the decision? Thought they`d only appealed the length of the ban. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 Great news for us. Can't see it changing the result but we live in hope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pool Q Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 World rugby are looking like a bunch of complete arseholes over discipline. Something has to change. Delighted if they're allowed to play tomorrow - if we are actually allowed to change the team. Lineups are meant to be finalised 48 hours before kickoff. This. The whole thing has been a complete farce. The citing Commisioner (an Australian) ignored the fact that the ref said that he saw the incident and didn't think it merited any penalty. This was compounded by Quinlan also ignoring it, and that the Samoan had no memory of the incident, and imposing what was almost universally recognised as an absurdly long ban. Scotland have had to prepare all week on the basis that Gray and Ford wouldn't play, and now 24 hours before the game, things are in reality complicated by this reversal. Assuming it is right that both can play I guess they will, but the whole thing has brought the RWC into disrepute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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