weekevie04 Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 Taking this way off topic, and definitely not fishing, but Poland have to be one of the biggest underachieving football nations in the world. A massive, football mad population who often fail to qualify for championships. Although they seem to have found a very decent side now. I think they'll qualify for the Euros and probably beat us tomorrow, but it'll be interesting to see how they do against Romania, Switzerland, Belgium, etc next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fanatyk Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 Twice 3rd on World Cup and qualified for a fair number of big tournaments recently (with no success once qualified though). Produced good number of great players Deyna, Lato, Lubanski, Boniek, Warzycha, Smolarek, Tomaszewski, Lewandowski etc. plus bunch of guys that we have now playing in decent leagues and clubs Always could be better of course but could be worse either. We will see where this team will takes us. We suffer from lack of funds in national football league for sure and there is a sense of underachievieng overall but is not that big as you would expect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Gas Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 Bar that Greer tackle I wouldn't say we are a dirty team in anyway. We try and play 21st century football under WGS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chico Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 Twice 3rd on World Cup and qualified for a fair number of big tournaments recently (with no success once qualified though). Produced good number of great players Deyna, Lato, Lubanski, Boniek, Warzycha, Smolarek, Tomaszewski, Lewandowski etc. plus bunch of guys that we have now playing in decent leagues and clubs Always could be better of course but could be worse either. We will see where this team will takes us. We suffer from lack of funds in national football league for sure and there is a sense of underachievieng overall but is not that big as you would expect. Ebi Smolarek! Quality player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green_Tide_Rising Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 I fear it's going to be Scotland v Poland AND the Referee. (no offence intended to any Polish fans). We had this ref for the away leg of our EURO 2012 playoff game......he was card happy I remember He dished out about 7 yellows as far I can remember....which in turn led to 2 players receiving red cards during the game. Cant remember if any of them were unfair...dont think there was any controversy with them but cant be sure due to the timeline But in saying that....He has refereed a champions Final and 2 Champions League semi finals, and a world cup semi final.....so i figure ye should be fine.....poor referee's normally dont get those big games if they have a poor match history Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mariokempes56 Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 Yeah sure we had a top referee for the Italy home game right enough... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bannannan Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 Lewandowski can be a wee dirty barsteward too btw! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green_Tide_Rising Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 (edited) Yeah sure we had a top referee for the Italy home game right enough... initially wasnt sure if serious/sarcastic I read the below .....now guessing sarcastic https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manuel_Mejuto_Gonz%C3%A1lez Doesnt have anywhere near the big match history as the guy looking after yere game tomorrow though Edited October 7, 2015 by Green_Tide_Rising Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave78 Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 initially wasnt sure if serious/sarcastic I read the below .....now guessing sarcastic https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manuel_Mejuto_Gonz%C3%A1lez Doesnt have anywhere near the big match history as the guy looking after yere game tomorrow though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mariokempes56 Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 initially wasnt sure if serious/sarcastic I read the below .....now guessing sarcastic https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manuel_Mejuto_Gonz%C3%A1lez Doesnt have anywhere near the big match history as the guy looking after yere game tomorrow though He was "top" enough to keep everyone happy..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green_Tide_Rising Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 F**k me!!!!!......words fail me!!!!!! Whatever about the referee...what the f&&k was the linesman doing? Ah lads....thats a serious kick in the balls Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chico Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 Shite decision, compounded by bad defending. Free header 6 yards from goal isn't good enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fanatyk Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 (edited) apart from obvious referee blunder that was a horrible mistake by the defender, he should kick the ball as far as possible instead of... yeah only he knows what he was trying to do Edited October 7, 2015 by fanatyk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green_Tide_Rising Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 (edited) apart from obvious referee blunder that was a horrible mistake by the defender, he should kick the ball as far as possible instead of... yeah only he knows what he was trying to do Id view that as more than a referee blunder....that just looks pure dodge as if they wanted the "bigger" football nation to qualify (not saying it is ....just looks suspect) There was a linesman there too......massive co-incidence that both linesman and ref thought somehow that was a free kick to Italy Edited October 7, 2015 by Green_Tide_Rising Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jagtag Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 Id view that as more than a referee blunder....that just looks pure dodge as if they wanted the "bigger" football nation to qualify There was a linesman there too......massive co-incidence that both linesman and ref thought somehow that was a free kick to Italy But even more so when the Italian Journalist asked McLeish in the press conference if he really thought Scotland could win and pointed out that if they did Uefa would lose £150 million in advertising rights. McLeish asked him if he was saying it was fixed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green_Tide_Rising Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 But even more so when the Italian Journalist asked McLeish in the press conference if he really thought Scotland could win and pointed out that if they did Uefa would lose £150 million in advertising rights. McLeish asked him if he was saying it was fixed. Yeah very dodge mate . ...gutted for ye after seeing that footage Similar questions were asked regarding advertising rights, adidas sponsorship , bigger nation missing out....when the ref and linesman somehow missed the Henry handball against us in the W.C 2010 playoff. Ya would hope football isnt like that.......but........... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fanatyk Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 Id view that as more than a referee blunder....that just looks pure dodge as if they wanted the "bigger" football nation to qualify (not saying it is ....just looks suspect) There was a linesman there too......massive co-incidence that both linesman and ref thought somehow that was a free kick to Italy If the defender kicked the ball away as he should do it wouldn`t be any allegations. Or maybe he was a part of that conspiracy? Let`s not get paranoid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weekevie04 Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 Twice 3rd on World Cup and qualified for a fair number of big tournaments recently (with no success once qualified though). Produced good number of great players Deyna, Lato, Lubanski, Boniek, Warzycha, Smolarek, Tomaszewski, Lewandowski etc. plus bunch of guys that we have now playing in decent leagues and clubs Always could be better of course but could be worse either. We will see where this team will takes us. We suffer from lack of funds in national football league for sure and there is a sense of underachievieng overall but is not that big as you would expect. Thanks for the information. Whatever happened to Olisadabe (spelling)? I remember in the Japan/Korea World Cup and looked a great player in that tournament. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green_Tide_Rising Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 If the defender kicked the ball away as he should do it wouldn`t be any allegations. Or maybe he was a part of that conspiracy? Let`s not get paranoid. There is no paranoia at all .....it doesnt make a difference whether the defender kicked the ball away(thats an entirely seperate issue). Whether he did or didnt....it in no way was an Italy freekick.......madness that it was given or even considered Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mariokempes56 Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 (edited) If the defender kicked the ball away as he should do it wouldn`t be any allegations. Or maybe he was a part of that conspiracy? Let`s not get paranoid. Not like FIFA is corrupt or anything is it ?? Nah.. (and Hutton is too stupid anyway). EDIT : FIFA/UEFA.. same shower. Edited October 7, 2015 by mariokempes56 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fanatyk Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 Thanks for the information. Whatever happened to Olisadabe (spelling)? I remember in the Japan/Korea World Cup and looked a great player in that tournament. Olisadebe. Yeah he was a great player for that campaign leading to 2002 WC. New quality to the team back then and the likeable guy. After WC he continued his career in Panathinaikos, but in 2005 got injured then made few bad transfer decisions and remaining years he played in some minor clubs. Stopped playing in 2013. A legend. Main man in our comeback to WC after 16 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86glebestreet Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 If the defender kicked the ball away as he should do it wouldn`t be any allegations. Or maybe he was a part of that conspiracy? Let`s not get paranoid. Maybe we will get a decision like that against you tomorrow, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fanatyk Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 Or maybe we will. That`s football. Once you`re lucky with referee, once you`re not. It`s not ideal, but untill referees are people there will be mistakes. But with that logic you trying to impose here: Iceland should be nowhere near France 2016, Wales should be nowhere near it, maybe Norn Iron as well etc. All small nations. It`s easier to expelain such situation with controversial theories, but sometimes, or maybe mostly, it`s just luck of luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green_Tide_Rising Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 Or maybe we will. That`s football. Once you`re lucky with referee, once you`re not. It`s not ideal, but untill referees are people there will be mistakes. But with that logic you trying to impose here: Iceland should be nowhere near France 2016, Wales should be nowhere near it, maybe Norn Iron as well etc. All small nations. It`s easier to expelain such situation with controversial theories, but sometimes, or maybe mostly, it`s just luck of luck. Thats a terrible analogy Wales have some very good players and a good team ethic....thats why they are there Northern Ireland ....have a fantastic team ethic and their group isnt the toughest Christ even my own bunch.....on numerous occassions .....we have punched above our weight in qualifying and in tournaments That cant be compared to conspiracy Im not sure how you can even equate the above with a corrupt FIFA/UEFA Nobody on here is saying every referee is corrupt and yes referee's are people and can make genuine mistakes.....but there is a mistake and then an utter ridiculous decision as per the video above that in no way makes any logic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fanatyk Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 So FIFA/UEFA want to get rid of "small nations" from their big tournaments or no? In general: yes or no? Or that cases in which they want to that and that "cannot be compared" are simply picked up by you or other fans supporting that version, from all the games played to fit into theory? Denmark, Holland, Czech Republic, Wales, NI, Ireland, Iceland, Switzerland and probably others- they won`t fit into it for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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