Dillinger Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 How is this still in a job? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flure Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 Guardian reporting police investigating if Carmichael did wrong http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/may/26/police-investigate-alistair-carmichaels-false-denials-over-memo-leak Comments switched off on their site after only 8 comments! If this is in response to the complaint from someone in Lanarkshire, I've already seen on Twitter that the polis have said that no electoral criminality has been committed because Sturgeon was not a candidate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northernscum Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 He is not travelling down to that there London for big Lizzies speech tomorrow. Staying on Orkney to "make amends to his electorate". What a coward Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weekevie04 Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 Apologies if this has been posted, but great effort 25k of the 60 required rasied in one day. https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/the-people-versus-carmichael#/story Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 Apologies if this has been posted, but great effort 25k of the 60 required rasied in one day. https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/the-people-versus-carmichael#/story It's excellent that so many folk feel so strongly about this to be able to raise so much money so quickly, but I can't help thinking that the money could be put to better use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomtscotland Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 It's excellent that so many folk feel so strongly about this to be able to raise so much money so quickly, but I can't help thinking that the money could be put to better use.If Carmichael remains then we will pay a bill, probably in excess of a £million, to cover his salary, expenses and office. I contributed to the fund to get him out - happy in the knowledge that if he is removed by other means then the fund will go to food banks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jailender Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 HIs replacement will cost us the same, so just send your money to the food banks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 Carmichael and the Lib Dems should do the right thing, either resign or hold a by election. It's damning that people are having to raise money, that would be better spend elsewhere to achieve some democracy. The defence seems to be it's okay to lie if your party only has 1 seat and your opponents have nearly all of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UPROAR Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 turns out Mundell knew...... https://youtu.be/tcJWcjwYMfc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Return of Yermaw Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 turns out Mundell knew...... https://youtu.be/tcJWcjwYMfc The PM's spokesperson said something similar. It's therefore pretty clear they were aware of it yet the Enquiry findings make no reference to it. So weeks on end to complete and supposedly £1.4m and the enquiry is in no way exhaustive - even the assessment of the civil servant and how he came to include Sturgeon's "preference" poses more questions than answers. The whole thing is rotten to the core. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exile Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 turns out Mundell knew...... https://youtu.be/tcJWcjwYMfc Could questions be asked in the House - like, when did the (current) Secretary of State first know about the leak? But, aside from general political mischief, what practical difference would it make if Mundell admitted it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flure Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 Could questions be asked in the House - like, when did the (current) Secretary of State first know about the leak? But, aside from general political mischief, what practical difference would it make if Mundell admitted it? He could be pressured into resigning. This would give the Tories a problem because they don;t have another MP from Scotland to make Scottish Secretary. Chances are the would appoint an unelected peer to do the job. This would be used by those who would wish to see the role abolished or as evidence of how Westminster does not reflect Scottish realities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 Could questions be asked in the House - like, when did the (current) Secretary of State first know about the leak? But, aside from general political mischief, what practical difference would it make if Mundell admitted it? Well Pete Wishart has just done that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UPROAR Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 He could be pressured into resigning. This would give the Tories a problem because they don;t have another MP from Scotland to make Scottish Secretary. Chances are the would appoint an unelected peer to do the job. This would be used by those who would wish to see the role abolished or as evidence of how Westminster does not reflect Scottish realities. would be a much more satisfactory outcome... Carmichael can hang around like an embarrassing kiddy fiddling uncle for as long as he wants. He already stated knowing about this issue is complicity and he would have resigned as secretary of state... If he knew he has to go... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maq Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 would be a much more satisfactory outcome... Carmichael can hang around like an embarrassing kiddy fiddling uncle for as long as he wants. He already stated knowing about this issue is complicity and he would have resigned as secretary of state... If he knew he has to go... If he would have resigned, why didn't he resign? "If I'd known i'd done that thing, that I knew I had done, I would have resigned my post' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UPROAR Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 If he would have resigned, why didn't he resign? "If I'd known i'd done that thing, that I knew I had done, I would have resigned my post' sorry not precisely written by me... it was Carmichael who said it was an issue worthy of resigning as Sec of State... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alibi Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 What he said was that if he had still been SoS when he was found out, he would have had to resign. The implication of that is that if Mundell is now found to have been involved, he would also have to resign, although I suspect he would hide behind semantics, i.e. he might say he knew what Carmichael had done but did not play any active part in it, in an attempt to hang on. This is a bit like a football match where one team puts in a few hard tackles early on to injure their opponents. An SoS with his credibility destroyed or even put in doubt would be a sitting duck for the next 5 years. The SNP getting their retaliation in first. I think next week we should step up the winding up. Someone on Twitter suggested they should take in vuvuzelas... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maq Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 sorry not precisely written by me... it was Carmichael who said it was an issue worthy of resigning as Sec of State... Aye, I know - I was just pointing out that Carmichaels stance is ridiculous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EIFA10 Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 The Lib Dems have called for Sepp Blatter to resign. How ironic! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Return of Yermaw Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 The Lib Dems have called for Sepp Blatter to resign. How ironic! Just about to make a reference as to how the MSM will run with it in the hope that Blatter resigns but quickly dropped any pretence of there being any public pressure for Carmichael to resign. Anyway, indieGoGo fund at £40k. Looks like sufficient funds will be raised in time to mount a legal challenge against this shameful man (Carmichael not Blatter that is). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishcumnock Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 Can soutar or weirs etc no tap it up , its a great opportunity to put the boot into a man elected to represent us who did the opposite And looked after himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 Can soutar or weirs etc no tap it up , its a great opportunity to put the boot into a man elected to represent us who did the opposite And looked after himself. It'lol get there in its own time. Have you contributed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flora MaDonald Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 The Lib Dems have called for Sepp Blatter to resign. How ironic! I wouldn't be surprised if Blatter's faither was from Bowmore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perthTam Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 £41k raised now. Getting worried yet Carmichael? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishcumnock Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 It'lol get there in its own time. Have you contributed?no giro wed ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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