thplinth Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 Of course she did but how many women who were the best candidate haven't made it? Lamia how many men have not made it who were the best candidates? Because they were of the wrong class, or have the wrong religion or were poor or were weak or were the wrong race... How many were slaughtered in Wars while your sex stayed at home or handed out white feathers? Behind every great (evil) man was a woman, until recently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flure Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 Lamia how many men have not made it who were the best candidates? Because they were of the wrong class, or have the wrong religion or were poor or were weak or were the wrong race... How many were slaughtered in Wars while your sex stayed at home or handed out white feathers? Behind every great (evil) man was a woman, until recently. I'm not normally exercised to ask this, but are you on something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redstevie007 Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 I'm not normally exercised to ask this, but are you on something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 I'm not normally exercised to ask this, but are you on something? I just had a glass of sauvignon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kumnio Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 I dont care if Nicola Sturgeon is a woman, she is the most qualified within the SNP to assume the duties, so for that reason, Im delighted she has the post. Sexual equality in Scottish politics is doing OK, Alexander, Davidson, Alexander and Goldie have done well for themselves. There will never be a 50/50 split in top jobs, of any industry/sector. To think there should be is surely sexist in its self? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flure Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 I just had a glass of sauvignon. Ah, the sauvignon. Been the downfall of many a philosopher. Try here - much more mellow and better VFM than many of the better known (common) types. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flure Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 Anyway...... Nicola Sturgeon made history today by being "nominated' as First Minister. "Nominated", I hear you ask? Yes, the Queen has power of veto and has to agree. A technicality maybe, but...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamia Posted November 19, 2014 Author Share Posted November 19, 2014 Lamia how many men have not made it who were the best candidates? Because they were of the wrong class, or have the wrong religion or were poor or were weak or were the wrong race... I am not arguing against that. I am arguing for equality be if gender, race, social background whatever. You seem to be the one not support this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamia Posted November 19, 2014 Author Share Posted November 19, 2014 (edited) Well I can't speak for others but I would say no one gives a shit what sex the FM is so probably never thought to start a thread on it. Nicola seems to give a shit Edited November 19, 2014 by Lamia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 Johan Lamont? Ruth Davidson? Yeah thank goodness Nicola has 'broken through'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamia Posted November 19, 2014 Author Share Posted November 19, 2014 . How many were slaughtered in Wars while your sex stayed at home or handed out white feathers? Behind every great (evil) man was a woman, until recently. And if you think I am going to rise to this... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamia Posted November 19, 2014 Author Share Posted November 19, 2014 (edited) I dont care if Nicola Sturgeon is a woman, she is the most qualified within the SNP to assume the duties, so for that reason, Im delighted she has the post. Sexual equality in Scottish politics is doing OK, Alexander, Davidson, Alexander and Goldie have done well for themselves. There will never be a 50/50 split in top jobs, of any industry/sector. To think there should be is surely sexist in its self? Whether you think this is possible or not is one thing (to be honest I have no idea why it isn't but there you go - and no idea why this would be sexist) but the levels right now are not all that we can hope for. They are shockingly low Edited November 19, 2014 by Lamia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wheres the pies Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 Ah, the sauvignon. Been the downfall of many a philosopher. Try here - much more mellow and better VFM than many of the better known (common) types. more of a malbec or merlot man myself south America Mendoza region Argentina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 I am not arguing against that. I am arguing for equality be if gender, race, social background whatever. You seem to be the one not support this Real equality for me is accepting that women are just as bad/good (delete as appropriate) as men. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamia Posted November 19, 2014 Author Share Posted November 19, 2014 (edited) Johan Lamont? Ruth Davidson? Yeah thank goodness Nicola has 'broken through'. I could give you a massive list of horrendous men who shouldn't be there Edited November 19, 2014 by Lamia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamia Posted November 19, 2014 Author Share Posted November 19, 2014 Real equality for me is accepting that women are just as bad/good (delete as appropriate) as men. I do - but right now it appears people think men are better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flure Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 Real equality for me is accepting that women are just as bad/good (delete as appropriate) as men. Women haven't been allowed (by men) the same opportunity to show how keech they can be. Or how good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kumnio Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 Nicola seems to give a shit Good speech by Nicola, she will do a good job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 I do - but right now it appears people think men are better Lamia, the media war against men has been waging so long I am not surprised you think this. Men, Dads, whatever have been targeted by the media as the object of derision for my whole memory. At the same time you have been filled with indignation at all the bad things men have done to your sex. This is why I disliked that Alex Proud article, same shit, trying to turn one part against the other constantly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronaldhinos dentist Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 bbc national news tonight spent almost four minutes on a UKIP by election followed by less than 20 seconds on nicola becoming first minister, so I guess it's not that big a deal to the BBC...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andymac Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 Women haven't been allowed (by men) the same opportunity to show how keech they can be. Or how good. I would heartily disagree with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 Women haven't been allowed (by men) the same opportunity to show how keech they can be. Or how good. So no woman has influenced her husband's decisions? Aye right flure, what are you on by the way? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamia Posted November 19, 2014 Author Share Posted November 19, 2014 Lamia, the media war against men has been waging so long I am not surprised you think this. Men, Dads, whatever have been targeted by the media as the object of derision for my whole memory.. I am talking about numbers in top jobs so no idea what point you are making - there are significantly less women so this "derision" you claim there is isn't impeding them. At the same time you have been filled with indignation at all the bad things men have done to your sex. No I haven't No idea what rattled your cage but it is quite bizarre.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamia Posted November 19, 2014 Author Share Posted November 19, 2014 Oh and if there is a media war on men it is being carried out by men - 30% women in top media jobs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kumnio Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 Whether you think this is possible or not is one thing (to be honest I have no idea why it isn't but there you go - and no idea why this would be sexist) but the levels right now are not all that we can hope for. They are shockingly low They are low in some sectors, but Scottish politics isnt one of them. The most recent stats I could find state that 67% of women aged between 16-64 are in employment, compared to 76% of males in the same age group. So it does make sense that more men would make their way to the top. Its not an ideal world, but its hardly of a Dickensian nature. Being a man saying this, of course it will come across as sexist, but there will never be a 50/50 split in top jobs, the bigger issue is IMO is the pay inequality between the sexes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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