King Of Paisley Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 And well on course for smashing the 100,000 barrier as well. Can't be far off being the second largest party in the UK in terms of membership. And to think the BBC are doing all that they can to treat the SNP as a minority party when it comes to election debates next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamia Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 And well on course for smashing the 100,000 barrier as well. Can't be far off being the second largest party in the UK in terms of membership. And to think the BBC are doing all that they can to treat the SNP as a minority party when it comes to election debates next year. I read somewhere the Tories have 134,000 members Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scunnered Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OLAS Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 I read somewhere the Tories have 134,000 members You'd think they couldn't ignore the SNP if they break the 134k barrier and become the second largest party.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamia Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 What would you prefer that has actually got a chance of making any change Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cove_Sheep Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 (edited) What would you prefer that has actually got a chance of making any change You saw his preference last weekend picketing outside Edited November 23, 2014 by Cove_Sheep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scunnered Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 What would you prefer that has actually got a chance of making any change I'd rather 92,000 people joined a party who were interested in positive social change and working on a fairer society. SNP policy is aimed at aiding corporate at the expense of public service & the working class. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exile Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 (edited) And to think the BBC are doing all that they can to treat the SNP as a minority party when it comes to election debates next year. Likely to be the case as long as they are just a Scottish-issue party (even if they ran in every seat in UK). Is the question of broadcasting negotiable in the devo bill? Edited November 23, 2014 by exile Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamia Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 I'd rather 92,000 people joined a party who were interested in positive social change and working on a fairer society. SNP policy is aimed at aiding corporate at the expense of public service & the working class. Which party? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cove_Sheep Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 Which party? I am pretty sure he is SSP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scunnered Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 Which party? Greens, SSP, even RESPECT would be better than the SNP to be fair. On the far left spectrum you have the various communist parties, SCP, Communist party of Britain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scunnered Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 I am pretty sure he is SSP. I wouldn't advocate SSP while Colin Fox is leader. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamia Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 I wouldn't advocate SSP while Colin Fox is leader. And therein lies the problem. I think the parties where many of those who joined the SNP would naturally lie have to take much of the responsibility not those who have joined the SNP as tey see it as the only party with the actual power to do anything. And maybe just maybe these people will change the party? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 I'd rather 92,000 people joined a party who were interested in positive social change and working on a fairer society. SNP policy is aimed at aiding corporate at the expense of public service & the working class. This is mince to be fair and currently the Scottish Labour party's waffle at the moment The SNP had a "proposal" in the white paper to reduce the rate of Corporation Tax in Scotland The argument was that this would encourage more Companies to Scotland, boost the economy and increase employment meaning more tax revenue for a Scottish Treasury - money that could then be spent on public services and the like Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scunnered Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 This is mince to be fair and currently the Scottish Labour party's waffle at the moment The SNP had a "proposal" in the white paper to reduce the rate of Corporation Tax in Scotland The argument was that this would encourage more Companies to Scotland, boost the economy and increase employment meaning more tax revenue for a Scottish Treasury - money that could then be spent on public services and the like Behave yourself chap. Just because you don't agree does not make it mince. Laffers theory has been in practice for over 40 years and has NEVER worked the way the SNP said it would. In fact it lead to further inequality and only shareholders benefitted. Have a wee squatch at the SNP's budget draft, does that look like the actions of a socially progressive party? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 They still are Scotland's best chance at achieving independence? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scunnered Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 They still are Scotland's best chance at achieving independence? I don't disagree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flure Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 (edited) Greens, SSP, even RESPECT would be better than the SNP to be fair. On the far left spectrum you have the various communist parties, SCP, Communist party of Britain. I wouldn't advocate SSP while Colin Fox is leader. So, not the SSP then. That leaves us with Greens, RESPECT, SCP, Communist Party of Britain. Which of them would lead quickest to an Independent Scotland? Edited November 23, 2014 by Flure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamia Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 So, not the SSP then. That leaves us with RESPECT, SCP, Communist Party of Britain. Which of them would lead quickest to an Independent Scotland? And the Greens Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flure Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 And the Greens Whatchoo talkin' bout, Willis? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scunnered Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 Which of them would lead quickest to an Independent Scotland? I quite fancy being out of the EU, but I wouldn't join UKIP arguably the quickest way to achieve this. I can't put my name to a party that cuts funding to public services and councils while protecting the interests of capital, it goes against everything I stand for politically. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 I can't put my name to a party that cuts funding to public services and councils while protecting the interests of capital, it goes against everything I stand for politically. Again mince Any Scottish Government budget regardless of party is confined to the money it gets back from Westminster How are the SNP protecting the interest of capital when they are continuing to maintain their policies on council tax, prescriptions, personal care and ensuring the NHS is ringfenced from cuts to the best of their abilities etc ? Not forgetting the Scottish Parliament at the moment has very little worthwhile control over anything apart from robbing peter to pay paul A Scottish Government can only be the progressive one we want it to be with Independence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 (edited) Donald Trump debacle. It all depends on where you sit, something is only "near" or "far" relative to where you are. So if someone doesn't like Capital at all, then they can be seen to be far, but someone who doesn't view it as strongly, the position will be nearer. Edited November 23, 2014 by phart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scunnered Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 Again mince Any Scottish Government budget regardless of party is confined to the money it gets back from Westminster How are the SNP protecting the interest of capital when they are continuing to maintain their policies on council tax, prescriptions, personal care and ensuring the NHS is ringfenced from cuts to the best of their abilities etc ? Not forgetting the Scottish Parliament at the moment has very little worthwhile control over anything apart from robbing peter to pay paul A Scottish Government can only be the progressive one we want it to be with Independence Have you read their budget draft? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamia Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 Have you read their budget draft? Enlighten us? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.