Padre Andrew Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 18 months ago a pal of mine was a die-hard Labour supporter. Despised the SNP. Despite supporting Irish nationalism he could see no place for an independent Scotland. Gave me grief if he saw me out leafleting. Together with others I managed to shift him to be a Yes voter (the Elaine C Smith video from Calton Hill really helped) – the illogicality of his stance finally got through. Considering where he’d started out, this move was very significant for him, and I did wonder how he would see things post-ref. Would he go back to Labour, one more time, “to keep the Tories out”? Last night he showed me his SNP membership card. If this guy’s turned, Labour really are in trouble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flora MaDonald Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 I take it he's a Grade A cûnt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 I take it he's a Grade A cûnt No.no.no, can you no read min. He used to be,, but he's one of the good guys now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stocky Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 at my local snp branch meeting the other night, there was 7 new members who had all been Labour members 3 years ago.... ... our village membership has gone up from 36 - 104 , only 2000 voters here. We also had a wee surprise as a guy who had voted ' no' joined as well, he shocked us all when he 'came out' but good for him, he changes his mind when the first result came in and regretted what he had done.... we need to know the story why they voted against all logic and common sense... he was scared he said.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JECK Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Makes me vomit that, "aw a sapport irishness but no care about Scotland". Must be the establishments dream, divide and conquer, split Scotland right down the middle Least this persons seen the light (not just cause they have registered with the snp). Sadly bet there's 1000s of others who still think the same with regards to both sides of the Irish border and scotland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armchair Bob Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 18 months ago a pal of mine was a die-hard Labour supporter. Despised the SNP. Despite supporting Irish nationalism he could see no place for an independent Scotland. Gave me grief if he saw me out leafleting. Together with others I managed to shift him to be a Yes voter (the Elaine C Smith video from Calton Hill really helped) – the illogicality of his stance finally got through. Considering where he’d started out, this move was very significant for him, and I did wonder how he would see things post-ref. Would he go back to Labour, one more time, “to keep the Tories out”? Last night he showed me his SNP membership card. If this guy’s turned, Labour really are in trouble. Tell me it's no George Galloway...! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotlad Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Makes me vomit that, "aw a sapport irishness but no care about Scotland". Must be the establishments dream, divide and conquer, split Scotland right down the middle Least this persons seen the light (not just cause they have registered with the snp). Sadly bet there's 1000s of others who still think the same with regards to both sides of the Irish border and scotland Thankfully, I think such people are becoming increasingly rare. Many, I suspect, will have gone on a similar 'journey' to the OP's pal due the referendum campaign. They may not be as emotionally connected to the Scottish cause as they are Ireland's, but I think they are able to see the parallels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padre Andrew Posted November 25, 2014 Author Share Posted November 25, 2014 I take it he's a Grade A cûnt No, he's not. He's a good guy who used to be confused. It's guys like this we have to win over. Insults aren't going to work. And in response to Armchair Bob, no, he's not George Galloway either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bzzzz Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Think one of the many positive things that have come from the referendum process decision etc has been that people seem to be beginning to think about their vote and what it means. I think the "traditional" labour voter attitude is dying off, slowly, but dying off all the same... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flure Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 No, he's not. He's a good guy who used to be confused. It's guys like this we have to win over. Insults aren't going to work.Well said, that chap! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Betty Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 No, he's not. He's a good guy who used to be confused. It's guys like this we have to win over. Insults aren't going to work. And in response to Armchair Bob, no, he's not George Galloway either. Exactly. You get far more with sugar than with vinegar. Don't alienate people by holding them in contempt for admitting weakness. They're asking for information now. How that information is delivered will have bearing on the next result. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flora MaDonald Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 No, he's not. He's a good guy who used to be confused. It's guys like this we have to win over. Insults aren't going to work. And in response to Armchair Bob, no, he's not George Galloway either. Sorry, just reread it. Aye, fair play to the boy. Been on a 48 hour bender, so reading nae fit it was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Return of Yermaw Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Makes me vomit that, "aw a sapport irishness but no care about Scotland". Must be the establishments dream, divide and conquer, split Scotland right down the middle Least this persons seen the light (not just cause they have registered with the snp). Sadly bet there's 1000s of others who still think the same with regards to both sides of the Irish border and scotland Your Scottish venacular attempt seems to contain a number of dialects and a yoda contribution.......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilly71 Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flora MaDonald Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Where's that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamntg Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Looks like Springburn to me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glasgow jock Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Castlemilk ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stocky Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 I think its just off the M8 before the M80 turn off I think, near Springburn, don't know name of 'suburb'? But it applies to every town and village in Scotland..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86glebestreet Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 I think its just off the M8 before the M80 turn off I think, near Springburn, don't know name of 'suburb'? But it applies to every town and village in Scotland..... Think you are correct, go to top of class Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuNsTeR Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 the handiwork of Am Buidheann Dubh https://www.facebook.com/Buidheann.Dubh?fref=nf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Royston. I was leafleting one of the polling stations there on the day and they were disgusted with Labour. I was certainly made to feel a lot more welcome than the local Labour councillor... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamia Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 http://blogs.channel4.com/gary-gibbon-on-politics/scottish-labour-despair/29709 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padre Andrew Posted November 26, 2014 Author Share Posted November 26, 2014 http://blogs.channel4.com/gary-gibbon-on-politics/scottish-labour-despair/29709 Cheery reading Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hertsscot Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Cheery reading Well we all know why Labour need Scotland but for the life of me I cannot see why Scotlaand needs Labour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpyauldgit Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 You really need to wonder, what the Liebour party in Scotland, would have to do, to make the Scottish people forget, that they got into bed with the tories, and lied through their teeth, to keep the union together, for a few more years. Even if the Lieour party found a way of curing cancer, ending war and global hunger, as well as finding Craig Whyte, there are people like me, who will never forgive them, for selling Scotland down the river. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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