hannibal smith Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 So one game not scoring, or looking out of your depth means you are out ? Fletcher must have those pesky incriminating photos of WGS then..... No but i dont think he is the player to start on his own up front which is stachans preferred system, he has only really looked good against Australia and Luxembourg when we have played two up front. He is a great option to have coming off the bench when we need a goal though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brassrubber Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Lewandowski must be delighted Strachan isn't the Polish manager Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bzzzz Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 He will score more than Fletcher. There's no messing about trying to be fancy with Rhodes, he's a goalscorer. Fletcher drives me daft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest allyc Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 (edited) Fletcher is pish.Rhodes for me. Edited October 2, 2015 by allyc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASTA Mick Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Lewandowski must be delighted Strachan isn't the Polish manager Surely you aren't comparing Lewandowski to Rhodes?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g@un Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 For me, we've got to try Rhodes in a few games. How long have we bemoaned the lack of a goal scorer? We have one of the most consistent in the UK yet hardly pick him! He does need to move from Blackburn and be continually tested at the highest level, I feel the transfer fee is hindering him now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LewisEDI Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 I feel the transfer fee is hindering him now. I agree, how long does he have left on his contract, he might have to run it down to get a move to premiership. 12 million+ is a lot for a championship striker all be it a well proven one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Return of Yermaw Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 Just pointing out pertinent facts that is all. Not that I woul expect anyone to recall anything I said on here but you remember our recent discussion where I pointed out you had a habit of attempting to pass of opinion as facts? Ahem...... You're wrong on your Rhodes opinion. It's no biggie, move on........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Return of Yermaw Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 Surely you aren't comparing Lewandowski to Rhodes?! That's a bit of a leap you're making. Our in-form strikers are Griffiths and Rhodes. Poland's is v clearly Lewandowski. We however are likely to start with Fletcher to no doubt be replaced at some point by Martin. That would be like Poland keeping Lewandowski on the bench. Nothing about Griffiths or Rhodes being anywhere near he standard of Lewandowski. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintlyscot Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 The clamour for Rhodes is predictable. We better get plenty supply into the penalty box if we play him as he can't hold the ball up, run the channels or track back. Would be suicide to start him against Poland. Wont happen in a million years however...Gibraltar away.....now that's a different matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marky Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 Actually it's not all. Rhodes I wonder if the view that Rhodes cannae play up top on his own comes from actually seeing him play ? I clearly remember thinking that we had a proper striker on our hands when the u21's won 2-1 in Holland, Rhodes scoring early from a Forrest cross. The other 'forward' players that night being Wylde and Wotherspoon, so Rhodes was on his own and he played well. He has continued to do that on occasion at Blackburn, although the situation can be fluid with the likes of Gestede playing up beside him. I actually feel sorry for Steven Fletcher, as he would benefit from a partner. I would play Fletcher and Rhodes, with both rotating to supplement the midfield when we don't have the ball. Fed up seeing Fletcher winning headers but nobody running past him. Rhodes is a worker as well, and Blackburn fans will tell you how much running and closing down he does. I think you'll find that the view that Rhodes can't play up top on his own, mainly comes from the fact that CaledonianCraig is a boring, repetitive fecker who hasn't got the first clue what he's on about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marky Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 Geiffiths has never looked anything but lost at international level. Rhodes would score 50 goals a year for Celtic, but he's not the kind of striker Scotland use. That's why Kenny Miller was picked before Kris Boyd. Two things wrong with that statement in my opinion Adam. Firstly Jordan Rhodes is nothing like Kris Boyd as a player and secondly, Boyd would have been picked much more for Scotland if he hadn't been such a cock of a guy. Nothing to do with his style of play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunchy Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 Yes Rhodes used to be a poacher type of player but after what she said about him he has buckled down and is developing into a more rounded striker. Alot of his goals now come from him making runs and holding play up. Maybe if the doubters were to watch him more now they would see that he has progressed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killiefaetheferry Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 Yes Rhodes used to be a poacher type of player but after what she said about him he has buckled down and is developing into a more rounded striker. Alot of his goals now come from him making runs and holding play up. Maybe if the doubters were to watch him more now they would see that he has progressed That's my issue with the opinions being offered as FACT that Rhodes can't close down/win headers/control and lay off to runners etc etc..........he does exactly that with blackburn, and a wee look at their fans opinions would suggest they are happy with his contribution in these areas. He is absolutely a finisher, and whilst that is his main quality, he can do the less glamourous stuff as well. Maybe not as good as Fletcher in overall play, but way ahead in terms of scoring goals. So I understand the choices made by Strachan, but I want him to be bolder by playing both Fletcher and Rhodes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 That's my issue with the opinions being offered as FACT that Rhodes can't close down/win headers/control and lay off to runners etc etc..........he does exactly that with blackburn, and a wee look at their fans opinions would suggest they are happy with his contribution in these areas. He is absolutely a finisher, and whilst that is his main quality, he can do the less glamourous stuff as well. Maybe not as good as Fletcher in overall play, but way ahead in terms of scoring goals. So I understand the choices made by Strachan, but I want him to be bolder by playing both Fletcher and Rhodes. Fair enough. Perhaps people such as myself should word it differently then in that Strachan evidently (who picks the team incidentally) doesn't see him as a viable alternative in the system that he plays. You concede yourself that his overall play is not as good as Fletcher's so you can understand why Fletcher gets the nod then? I do agree I'd prefer us to mould our system to suit situations as one up front is not the answer in certain situations ie Georgia away and many home games. However, I still doubt Rhodes. He had half an hour against a tiring Gibraltar and never even got a sniff - I am sorry but that is far from a glowing indictment of him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gusmac Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 I've not read through the whole thread so apologies if this is repeating. The problem with Rhodes is he just seems to have no impact when hes on the pitch.he doesn't,get himself into goalscoring positions, defenders seem very comfortable handling him and the lack of pace really hurts him at international level. I just don't,see him ever doing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Return of Yermaw Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 Fair enough. Perhaps people such as myself should word it differently then in that Strachan evidently (who picks the team incidentally) doesn't see him as a viable alternative in the system that he plays. You concede yourself that his overall play is not as good as Fletcher's so you can understand why Fletcher gets the nod then? I do agree I'd prefer us to mould our system to suit situations as one up front is not the answer in certain situations ie Georgia away and many home games. However, I still doubt Rhodes. He had half an hour against a tiring Gibraltar and never even got a sniff - I am sorry but that is far from a glowing indictment of him. You keep using the Gib argument as if it has major relevance. So Rhodes can score against the likes of Derby and QPR but not a tiring Gibraltar. This means you consider he is not good enough for international football ergo that Gibraltar are of a better quality than any Champinship team. You are becoming a parody and despite my better judgment, best avoided. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamntg Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 Two things wrong with that statement in my opinion Adam. Firstly Jordan Rhodes is nothing like Kris Boyd as a player and secondly, Boyd would have been picked much more for Scotland if he hadn't been such a cock of a guy. Nothing to do with his style of play. Kris Boyd is a throbbing cock of a man. You wouldn't get any argument from me there. I admit, I haven't seen Rhodes in a while, maybe he has built his all round game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 I think you'll find that the view that Rhodes can't play up top on his own, mainly comes from the fact that CaledonianCraig is a boring, repetitive fecker who hasn't got the first clue what he's on about. Can you add Gordon Strachan in there then? Evidently, he doesn't rate him enough to give him a game either. Why not quit the insults and try debating like pointing to his credentials of scoring in top flight football and explaining how he never scored in 30 minutes against a tiring Gibraltar side if he is the hot shot you think he is? I sincerely hope I am wrong about him but just as there are those on here who don't rate Forrest and swear he'll never make it then I feel the same is the case for Rhodes. The only way I see it changing is if Strachan completely overhauls his playing system or unearths a creative midfielder who can open up defences with long range passes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScotlandFanMuir Posted October 3, 2015 Author Share Posted October 3, 2015 Rhodes with an early goal today again... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 (edited) Rhodes with an early goal today again... Steven Fletcher also! Edited October 3, 2015 by Toepoke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScotlandFanMuir Posted October 3, 2015 Author Share Posted October 3, 2015 Ffs! You couldn't make that up. He'll be starting on Thursday. At least that'll boost his confidence and I'll shout on anyone who pulls on the dark blue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lossiejock 2 Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 2nd goal for rhodes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 Ffs! You couldn't make that up. He'll be starting on Thursday. At least that'll boost his confidence and I'll shout on anyone who pulls on the dark blue. We all will I'd hope - regardless of opinions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exile Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 It would be good at least to have Rhodes on the bench as an option... when there's Rhodes there's hope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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