Angus_Young Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 He's playing for the biggest club in the world now, what more do you want? Haha feck off you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan cake Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Nobody outside of Scotland would entertain the idea that Gordon was world class. and not many inside Scotland either, Marshall must be universal class to keep him out the team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pool Q Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 I do however remember Barry Ferguson routinely referred to as 'genuinely world class'. . Really? Beyond a few particularly myopic, OF obsessed knuckle-draggers? Honestly can't remember that. Fletcher has never been anywhere near world class either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest faircity Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 I'd say Willie Miller was genuine world class. He never played for a giant of football but at his peak there were very few players as capable as him. Rummenigge claimed that Miller was the best defender he ever faced, a while ago now right enough but he was probably our last very top drawer player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
er yir macaroon Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Kenny Dalglish was world class for Liverpool... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 I would say that Rooney is world class. Has Rooney ever been included in the FIFA world team of the year? Genuine question as I don't know the answer. IMHO, I don't think he's ever been in the best 2 or 3 in his position so I'd be surprised if he had. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kumnio Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Id say that theres two possible definitions of world class that Id use depending on context, either a player who would get into a world 11 or a world cup squad of 23. I dont think theres any player from the British Isles who would get into a world 11, nor a squad of 23, not even Bale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AberdeenAngus Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 I'd say world class would be being generally recognised as 1 of the top 2 or 3 players in that position on the planet over a reasonable period of time. No current England players are at that level - a lot of very good players but no world class. Bale has a case I'd say - probably gets in as would Giggs in his hey day. Scottish players who have been world class - Law, Dalglish and Miller for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fringo Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 I'd say world class would be being generally recognised as 1 of the top 2 or 3 players in that position on the planet over a reasonable period of time. No current England players are at that level - a lot of very good players but no world class. Bale has a case I'd say - probably gets in as would Giggs in his hey day. Scottish players who have been world class - Law, Dalglish and Miller for me. And probably Bremner, McGrain & Souness IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AberdeenAngus Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 And probably Bremner, McGrain & Souness IMO. Yes good shouts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AberdeenAngus Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 How could I have forgotten Jimmy Johnstone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErsatzThistle Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Baxter and Hansen ??? (the latter for club rather than country) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GRBear Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Looking through old photos, we found this one, are they world class? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VivaLaAndy Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 In my opinion Bale is world class. The only footballer from the British Isles at this moment in time. I've never saw a world class player from Scotland in my lifetime. (Born '91) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wembley67lisbon Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Neuer, Courtois Messi, Ronaldo Ramos, silva Zlatan, Costa Suarez, Robben, And numerous others. All world class IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RenfrewBlue Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Good debate but I've had it countless times with my friends. We came to the conclusion that there's World Class and below that International Class (for want of a better name). The IC players are guys like Rooney and Valdes and the WC ones are guys like Messi and Ronaldo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 (edited) Good debate but I've had it countless times with my friends. We came to the conclusion that there's World Class and below that International Class (for want of a better name). The IC players are guys like Rooney and Valdes and the WC ones are guys like Messi and Ronaldo.Victor Valdes?That's a bit like including the Brazil keeper from 1970. No better than a decent keeper who played in an exceptional team. The Gibraltar goalkeeper from Sunday would have won La Liga playing for that Barcelona side* *probably not. Edited March 30, 2015 by aaid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted March 31, 2015 Author Share Posted March 31, 2015 I'd say Rooney could've been considered World Class at some points during his career, but probably not now... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RenfrewBlue Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 I'd say Rooney could've been considered World Class at some points during his career, but probably not now... I'd say only for that one small period at the Euros when he was 17. Other than that I'd disagree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 I'd say Rooney could've been considered World Class at some points during his career, but probably not now... Don't get me wrong, I think Rooney is a fantastic player but I don't think you can really make that argument. When he was highly rated, a big part of that was down to his age and that he had potential to go to the next level, arguably he's never really kicked on to the extent that people thought he would do. I think to an extent he's been overhyped due to breaking through at such an early age and also England wanting a new hero. Fortunately there is a great comparison you can make with Ronaldo. They are similar ages however when Ronaldo joined Man Utd, Rooney was the one who everyone was expecting to be the next big thing. He'll no doubt go on to break Bobby Charlton's scoring record but he's not half the player that Charlton was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellyman Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 I would say that Rooney is world class. I would put that comment down to the fact you have watched 2nd and 3rd tier football for the last few season's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kumnio Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Messi Ronaldo Suarez Van Persie Ibrahimovic Muller Lewandowski Neymar James Reus Gotze Tevez Higuain All attackers or attacking midfielders, and all are better than Rooney, he is vastly over rated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al1978 Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Messi Ronaldo Suarez Van Persie Ibrahimovic Muller Lewandowski Neymar James Reus Gotze Tevez Higuain All attackers or attacking midfielders, and all are better than Rooney, he is vastly over rated. All great, all better than Rooney and still a couple I wouldn't class as world class. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parklife Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Messi Ronaldo Suarez Van Persie Ibrahimovic Muller Lewandowski Neymar James Reus Gotze Tevez Higuain All attackers or attacking midfielders, and all are better than Rooney, he is vastly over rated. I'd add to that list... Benzema Sanchez Pawlett Hazard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 I'd add to that list... Benzema Sanchez Pawlett Hazard Really impressed with Benzema past 12 months. Hazard is the best player in the UK, probably next to move onto spain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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