Rangers are Rocking; Scottys Financial insight inside.

[ShedTA]

Your post said "In charge" through the last admin, not on the board. He's never been in charge of Rangers.

ah I see. pedantry. ok he was one of the people in charge of the club when it went into admin. I do apologise.

[Parklife]

The SFA investigation at the time was critical of the board for not doing more to raise the alarm about Whyte. Whats your response?

DK: Id make submissions to the SFA. Id use the police report. In the whole Craig Whyte affair they have been very complimentary of the fact I did stay on the board and tried to hold them to account. I made available a lot of information in terms of their investigation which wouldn't have been available had I not hung in. It has been very, very useful to the police case. The fact I did stay on board and tried my best to represent what I thought was my interests and the fans interest has worked well. That submission would be persuasive to the SFA as well, I believe.

Ahhhh, hopefully this helps Bruce in his quest to educate himself. He didn't know any such investigation was carried out.

My apologies for thinking it was the SPL investigation. An SFA one is a more damning indictment though.

[Parklife]

Was the glib and shameless thing not over ruled by another judge who said the first one was speaking out of turn? I may have imagined that but sure I seen it somewhere.

Either you completely made it up, or i completely missed it and no one ever talks about it.

[Fairbairn]

ah I see. pedantry. ok he was one of the people in charge of the club when it went into admin. I do apologise.

And so you should!

That article in the Record makes good reading and outlines some of his plans which I think people were claiming earlier he had never done.

Part 1 - http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/part-one-every-question-every-5106662

Part 2 - http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/part-two-every-question-every-5106986

[ShedTA]

And so you should!

That article in the Record makes good reading and outlines some of his plans which I think people were claiming earlier he had never done.

Part 1 - http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/part-one-every-question-every-5106662

Part 2 - http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/part-two-every-question-every-5106986

fair enough. Thats decent info on his plans - which if true seem good (remember he is a glib and shameless liar though ). I hadnt seen any of this as I dont read the record.

For what its worth I hope your club gets itself sorted out. I just dont want it to be at the expense of more rules and waiving of more "guidelines" by the SFA as it further cheapens the game.

[Fairbairn]

fair enough. Thats decent info on his plans - which if true seem good (remember he is a glib and shameless liar though ). I hadnt seen any of this as I dont read the record.

For what its worth I hope your club gets itself sorted out. I just dont want it to be at the expense of more rules and waiving of more "guidelines" by the SFA as it further cheapens the game.

I'd actually be quite happy for King not to get a seat on the board to remove any accusations of favours or suspicions. As he said in that article though it's almost irrelevant as he'll just appoint someone in his place and still have Murray and Gilligan on board as well. He's the first person to come up with a semi transparent plan and tell people what he intends to do. For all his faults I'm prepared to give him the benefit of the doubt.

[ShedTA]

I'd actually be quite happy for King not to get a seat on the board to remove any accusations of favours or suspicions. As he said in that article though it's almost irrelevant as he'll just appoint someone in his place and still have Murray and Gilligan on board as well. He's the first person to come up with a semi transparent plan and tell people what he intends to do. For all his faults I'm prepared to give him the benefit of the doubt.

aye and good luck to you on that.

[bruce778]

ah I see. pedantry. ok he was one of the people in charge of the club when it went into admin. I do apologise.

Pedantry?! He was a director while lathe chairman had 80% of the shares! In charge suggests he was in control of the decision making at the company which is obviously incorrect and ignores the Craig whyte factor. There is plenty criticism to be thrown at king without sensationalising.

[bruce778]

Ahhhh, hopefully this helps Bruce in his quest to educate himself. He didn't know any such investigation was carried out.

My apologies for thinking it was the SPL investigation. An SFA one is a more damning indictment though.

"quest to educate himself". Weird.

Anyway I can't see the report by the SFA - I'm not sure it was ever published.

[ShedTA]

Pedantry?! He was a director while lathe chairman had 80% of the shares! In charge suggests he was in control of the decision making at the company which is obviously incorrect and ignores the Craig whyte factor. There is plenty criticism to be thrown at king without sensationalising.

he was a director of the club when it went into admin. are you absolving him of any responsibility? that would come as a great releif to many failed directors I would imagine.

It wasnt my fault - i was only a wee director not a big one.

[Flure]

That article in the Record makes good reading ............

Nothing to do with the subject matter of this thread, but there's a phrase I never thought I'd read again.

[Fairbairn]

Nothing to do with the subject matter of this thread, but there's a phrase I never thought I'd read again.

I had a rough idea someone would post something similar to that when I was typing it!

[Parklife]

"quest to educate himself". Weird.

You're right, that was incorrect.

You were happy being totally unaware.

[jim.mccole]

Always wondered about King.Has he been to a game this season.I know he has been in Scotland several times recently,but it was always said that he was keeping away to avoid causing unrest.

If it was me or an ardent supporter of any team that had lived away for a long time,then I would have to see my team playing well or not.

[TartanJon]

http://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/spfl-lower-divisions/sfa-chief-responsibility-for-owner-test-lay-with-rangers-1-2165105

Saturday 10 March 2012

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SCOTTISH Football Association chief executive Stewart Regan says Craig Whyte lied to the governing body in order to formally appoint himself Rangers chairman and insists it was the Ibrox club’s responsibility to ensure he was “fit and proper” to hold the position.

Speaking the morning after a special board meeting of the SFA declared Whyte unfit to run Rangers after receiving the findings of Lord Nimmo Smith’s Independent Inquiry into affairs at the club, Regan hit back at criticism of his organisation for failing to uncover Whyte’s unsuitability at an earlier stage.

Regan insists the SFA cannot reasonably be expected to devote time and money to assessing the background of every new director or owner to emerge at a club. He believes the fault for Whyte’s success in taking charge of Rangers lies with those at the club involved in undertaking due diligence during the takeover process

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During a breakfast briefing with daily newspaper correspondents, it also emerged that Rangers director Dave King will not be permitted by the SFA to be an official at the Ibrox club post-administration as he was still serving on the board when they entered their current insolvency event under Whyte.

[sbcmfc]

It's ok though, 'cos he's a good Rangers man, and he's allowed to be a director in South Africa.

Edited March 4, 2015 by sbcmfc

[Parklife]

It's ok though, 'cos he's a good Rangers man, and he's allowed to be a director in South Africa.

[Fairbairn]

It's ok though, 'cos he's a good Rangers man, and he's allowed to be a director in South Africa.

Point me in the direction of a post where any Rangers fan on this board has ever mentioned about him being a "good Rangers man". It's getting really blinking tiresome.

ing, it's getting really ing tiresome!

Edited March 4, 2015 by Fairbairn

[sbcmfc]

Point me in the direction of a post where any Rangers fan on this board has ever mentioned about him being a "good Rangers man". It's getting really blinking tiresome.

ing, it's getting really ing tiresome!

Just a bit of banter!

Although I don't really understand the clamour to get King in charge. He seems dodgy as heck!

I'm not sure of Mike Ashley's intentions, other than to make money in some way or other, but I'm not convinced he's the bogeyman he's made out to be either?

[tartandon]

And so you should!

That article in the Record makes good reading and outlines some of his plans which I think people were claiming earlier he had never done.

Part 1 - http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/part-one-every-question-every-5106662

Part 2 - http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/part-two-every-question-every-5106986

The same Daily Record who hailed Mr Whyte as the saviour due to his off the radar wealth.

[Fairbairn]

Just a bit of banter!

Although I don't really understand the clamour to get King in charge. He seems dodgy as heck!

I'm not sure of Mike Ashley's intentions, other than to make money in some way or other, but I'm not convinced he's the bogeyman he's made out to be either?

Aye sorry, was mibbe a bit short. It's just frustrating that people constantly seem to be missing what the likes of myself, Bruce etc are saying and continually peddling the "Rangers man" pish or ignoring the fact that we do say that King is no angel and we are aware that he's dodgy and make posts that allude to us dropping our knickers to him.

The same Daily Record who hailed Mr Whyte as the saviour due to his off the radar wealth.

And well done on completely missing the point.

[Maq]

Remember the stink caused by some rangers fans when celtic supporters looked into the background of Craig Whyte. At the time. no-one knew much about him, other than he was a Motherwell born gazillionairre, and a rangers die-hard. The Record was writing about his off the radar wealth, and how he was going to turn rangers into a force again.

It didn't take much digging to find out that he was dodgy as hell. But still, some rangers fans were convinced he was going to be their saviour.

Didn't they boycott, or march outside, the BBC for highlighting his past?

And this time, a guy is coming in - and everyone knows full well his past. He was a director at the club when it sunk into admin, prior to liquidation. He's a convicted tax fraud - only escaping jail by plea bargaining (or whatever the term is)

Yet some rangers fans groups are desperate to get him involved. I can't really see why?

As Fairbarn said a while ago, if I was a rangers fans, I'd much rather that he wasn't a director - that the SFA don't pass him as a fit and proper person. Aye, he can get his own directors in instead of him - but to me, that would be preferable to having him as a director again.

Interesting times ahead. I don't think they'll get promoted this season. But with a good clear out, and the return of the fan base, maybe they'll be able to start afresh again - and do what they should have done the last time. Bring through good players, and build a team. They'll have the money (assuming they pay off Ashley, and get crowds back up etc) to get some good players to have a decent squad. But the Championship still won't be easy next season.

[Fairbairn]

Remember the stink caused by some rangers fans when celtic supporters looked into the background of Craig Whyte. At the time. no-one knew much about him, other than he was a Motherwell born gazillionairre, and a rangers die-hard. The Record was writing about his off the radar wealth, and how he was going to turn rangers into a force again.

It didn't take much digging to find out that he was dodgy as hell. But still, some rangers fans were convinced he was going to be their saviour.

Didn't they boycott, or march outside, the BBC for highlighting his past?

And this time, a guy is coming in - and everyone knows full well his past. He was a director at the club when it sunk into admin, prior to liquidation. He's a convicted tax fraud - only escaping jail by plea bargaining (or whatever the term is)

Yet some rangers fans groups are desperate to get him involved. I can't really see why?

As Fairbarn said a while ago, if I was a rangers fans, I'd much rather that he wasn't a director - that the SFA don't pass him as a fit and proper person. Aye, he can get his own directors in instead of him - but to me, that would be preferable to having him as a director again.

Interesting times ahead. I don't think they'll get promoted this season. But with a good clear out, and the return of the fan base, maybe they'll be able to start afresh again - and do what they should have done the last time. Bring through good players, and build a team. They'll have the money (assuming they pay off Ashley, and get crowds back up etc) to get some good players to have a decent squad. But the Championship still won't be easy next season.

If anyone has read the full article I posted a few posts ago he's certainly talking a good game. And not in Chuck Green "Orange strip, Dallas Cowboys, Champions League music" kind of way but in a sensible, logical business sense. He talks about how he intends to provide the finance, short and long term goals, the importance of getting the right manager and letting him build a squad not just for next year but long term and the distinct probability that we won't get promoted this year. I think if people actually look at what he is saying it's difficult to pick holes in it.

He is of course a glib and shameless liar so it could all be bollocks of course!

[Kenneth Farrington]

Remember the stink caused by some rangers fans when celtic supporters looked into the background of Craig Whyte. At the time. no-one knew much about him, other than he was a Motherwell born gazillionairre, and a rangers die-hard. The Record was writing about his off the radar wealth, and how he was going to turn rangers into a force again.

It didn't take much digging to find out that he was dodgy as hell. But still, some rangers fans were convinced he was going to be their saviour.

Didn't they boycott, or march outside, the BBC for highlighting his past?

And this time, a guy is coming in - and everyone knows full well his past. He was a director at the club when it sunk into admin, prior to liquidation. He's a convicted tax fraud - only escaping jail by plea bargaining (or whatever the term is)

Yet some rangers fans groups are desperate to get him involved. I can't really see why?

As Fairbarn said a while ago, if I was a rangers fans, I'd much rather that he wasn't a director - that the SFA don't pass him as a fit and proper person. Aye, he can get his own directors in instead of him - but to me, that would be preferable to having him as a director again.

Interesting times ahead. I don't think they'll get promoted this season. But with a good clear out, and the return of the fan base, maybe they'll be able to start afresh again - and do what they should have done the last time. Bring through good players, and build a team. They'll have the money (assuming they pay off Ashley, and get crowds back up etc) to get some good players to have a decent squad. But the Championship still won't be easy next season.

Ultimately, the Rangers fans (I'd say the majority) want a Sugar Daddy to bring the good old days back. King ticks all the boxes - minted, Rangers diehard, lost money before & said he'll do it again, said he wants to stop Celtic, etc.

It's not difficult to understand & to be fair, I'd be the same if I was a bear.

[Larky Masher]

Ultimately, the Rangers fans (I'd say the majority) want a Sugar Daddy to bring the good old days back. King ticks all the boxes - minted, Rangers diehard, lost money before & said he'll do it again, said he wants to stop Celtic, etc.

It's not difficult to understand & to be fair, I'd be the same if I was a bear.

I'd say you're talking out your arse, the majority (not the vocal minority) of Rangers supporters are rather Brownite now.