SMcoolJ Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 At the time - I thought that it could have been a red. Little has changed my mind since. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davew Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 How is it a foul if Greer knocks the ball away first and Lewandowski kicks him? It's a foul if a player tackles an opponent in a manner considered by the referee to be careless, reckless or using excessive force. IMO it's a foul and a booking for unsporting behaviour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 Swings and roundabouts. Swings and roundabouts. Many thought Mulgrew was unlucky to get sent off V Germany and I have seen many meaty challenges on our players go unpunished. Some you win some you lose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMcoolJ Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 Swings and roundabouts. Swings and roundabouts. Many thought Mulgrew was unlucky to get sent off V Germany and I have seen many meaty challenges on our players go unpunished. Some you win some you lose. Many thought he was just stupid to get sent off in Gemrnay! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyD Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 It's a foul if a player tackles an opponent in a manner considered by the referee to be careless, reckless or using excessive force. For me, if you take the ball and don't go into the player then it's not reckless or excessive force. He's controlled and blocking infront of the player, who then comes into him. Carelss for having the studs up, maybe. If Greer had more forward momentum and had gone thru Lewandowski, then sure, i'm 100% with you it was a red no questions asked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 (edited) Many thought he was just stupid to get sent off in Gemrnay! Okay fair point but thing is we have had decisions go against as well such as Fletcher goal chalked off V Wales when it was a fair goal. As I said - swings and roundabouts. Edited October 16, 2014 by Caledonian Craig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Langtonian Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 if you cant see greer getting hte ball then.. there's not really much point disagreeing with you. you should probably surrender your driving license till you get yourself off to specsavers tho. never said i couldnt see greer getting the ball,i said it didnt look like he got the ball on watching it back,you basing your opinion on the pictures or the actual highlights? the fact you felt need for the sircastic last sentence when someone dares to disagree with you suggests maybe football forums arent the best place for you Maybe he was lucky, his studs were up more than they needed to be and on another night he might have been sent off for it. interesting when others get involved in the discussion and agree with me you mellow and change your tune Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parklife Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 Okay fair point but thing is we have had decisions go against as well such as Fletcher goal chalked off V Wales when it was a fair goal. As I said - swings and roundabouts.It wasn't a fair goal though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 Of course it was. All replays prove that conclusively. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parklife Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 Of course it was. All replays prove that conclusively. Pretty sure Adam was offside earlier in the move. Although that wasn't what the goal was ruled out for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davew Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 (edited) This is the moment the linesman put his flag up. btw Adam was onside when he received the ball. Edited October 16, 2014 by davew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parklife Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 This is the moment the linesman put his flag up. I know. He gave it for the ball going out, which it didn't. If it'd been given, it wouldn't have been a "fair goal" though, as CC claimed. As Adam (who put in the cross) was offside earlier in the move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davew Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 (edited) As Adam (who put in the cross) was offside earlier in the move. I don't think so. Look at the first frame of this video. Edited October 16, 2014 by davew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 Adam was not offside. The goal was disallowed as linesman ruled that the ball curled out of play and back in for the cross. That was the official take on it. Parklife argue if you wish and suppose you feel Lithuania won a legitimate penalty against us as well in Kaunas or that refer was correct not to allow us time for corner V Germany etc etc etc. My basic point being we have sometimes suffered through rank rotten decisions but this time one possibly went in our fafavour. Swings and roundabouts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parklife Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 I don't think so. Look at the first frame of this video. Adam was not offside. I'll find the incident online tonight but i definitely remember him being offside. I agree with your point that sometimes decisions go for you and sometimes they o against you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 I'll find the incident online tonight but i definitely remember him being offside. I agree with your point that sometimes decisions go for you and sometimes they o against you. It could NOT have been for offside as the flag went up well after Adam had got the ball. The flag went up as the ball curled into the area. But in any case you catch my drift. Some times you get the rub of the green and other times you don't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parklife Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 It could NOT have been for offside as the flag went up well after Adam had got the ball. The flag went up as the ball curled into the area. But in any case you catch my drift. Some times you get the rub of the green and other times you don't. Serious question, can you read? As this is what i've said: Pretty sure Adam was offside earlier in the move. Although that wasn't what the goal was ruled out for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 Serious question, can you read? As this is what i've said: Yes but after you said he was definitely offside which (even if he was) it wasn't given but would need video evidence to substantiate if he ever was offside. Apologies in that you did say he wasn't given offside so we return to as why the goal was chalked off and leaves only one explanation that the linesman ruled the ball curled out of play and back in again. Rough decision on us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jailender Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 Where's the facepalm emoticon? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 Where's the facepalm emoticon? Yes it was a terrible decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairbairn Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 Yes but after you said he was definitely offside which (even if he was) it wasn't given but would need video evidence to substantiate if he ever was offside. Apologies in that you did say he wasn't given offside so we return to as why the goal was chalked off and leaves only one explanation that the linesman ruled the ball curled out of play and back in again. Rough decision on us. I think the point Parkie is trying to make (and you in a roundabout way) is that the decisions have evened themselves out as we got a decision for us in Adam not being flagged offside when he should have been and then one go against us when the ball was ruled out of play when it wasn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyD Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 never said i couldnt see greer getting the ball, i said it didnt look like he got the ball on watching it back I'm failing to see the difference, you're welcome to explain. You don't say you could see him getting the ball. all you say is you watch the replay and it didn't look like he got it. Is my conclusion that you therefore don't think he got it a massive and unreasonable leap? If you can't explain your view sufficiently for people to understand what you mean, perhaps a football forum isnt the best place for you. interesting when others get involved in the discussion and agree with me you mellow and change your tune eh? change my tune in what way? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Langtonian Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 (edited) I'm failing to see the difference, you're welcome to explain. You don't say you could see him getting the ball. all you say is you watch the replay and it didn't look like he got it. Is my conclusion that you therefore don't think he got it a massive and unreasonable leap? If you can't explain your view sufficiently for people to understand what you mean, perhaps a football forum isnt the best place for you. eh,explain?much like your second last sentence eh? change my tune in what way?from questioning it was even a foul to on another night it could have been a red once others are involved in the discussionare you basing your opinion on the pictures or actual highlights? footballs all about opinions and if you cant accept opinions that you dont agree with maybe a football forum isnt the best place for you Edited October 16, 2014 by Langtonian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyD Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 I'm really quite bored of you, pal. but i'll make the effort one last time.. which sentance and what's wrong with it? re: changing tune.. i didnt think it was a foul, i still dont. i can see why someone on another nighnt might give it. it you're not paying attention then it could look a lot worse than it was imo. what's changed? i've watched the realtime and slow-mo of the incident at least half a dozen times. i can accept opinions. If you look back thru all my posts on here you'll see that. i'm even able to put up with your condescension.. tho probably not for much longer and i'll just start ignoring whatever you have to say as what would be the benefit for me to listen to you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Langtonian Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 (edited) me condescending? lol Edited October 17, 2014 by Langtonian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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