antidote Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 My career is absolutely dependent on a No vote. I'm voting Yes and I'll find another job. Now that's what I call commitment. I commend you sir for not doffing your cap to the master like others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hessen Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 you are the kind of yes voter that I have time for. No nirvana just a long term yes through thick or thin. Never agree but I respect your position. a divorce is only painful to the heart if there is still love. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest flumax Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Twice yesterday I was asked why I wasn't attending a meeting this Thursday in Telford. I replied we have a vote going on here on Thursday. Oh! was the reply...Meant to be in Stoke. Instead I've a video conference starting at 0900. tried to explain might not make it with queues leading to missed trains etc..... They couldn't understand the concept of a queue to vote for independence. I truly think it doesn't register for most that almost everyone will turn out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave the bankie Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 I moved down to N Yorks from Cambuslang 10 months ago ( family reasons ) and as yet have not noticed a dislike of Scots here , I have met welcoming friendly people who have never mentioned The Referendum in my presence and I don't see that changing once we vote Yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antidote Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Currently in England on a training course and as a solid no been taken back by the backlash of feeling here. I really think now we have been in a bit of a bubble. Really don't know what the next couple of years will bring I think you've been reading too much of the comments in the daily mail, express, telegraph etc. Vote no to keep them denigrating and insulting us, which by the way has been going on for many years not just in the lead up to this referendum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larky Masher Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 I think you've been reading too much of the comments in the daily mail, express, telegraph etc. Vote no to keep them denigrating and insulting us, which by the way has been going on for many years not just in the lead up to this referendum. Just like how you denigrate and insult them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 (edited) Fair enough but they are in the same line of business and I have ended up placating for for you lot. some of us have careerscareersErm, as do we. Though if I listened to BT I might not have one much longer. Still doesn't change my vote. Edited September 16, 2014 by Squirrelhumper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antidote Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Just like how you denigrate and insult them? The irony coming from you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larky Masher Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 The irony coming from you. Well done on the spelling there including that big six letter word. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redstevie007 Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 a divorce is only painful to the heart if there is still love. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runningtings Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 I have a career too, but in my mind this is bigger than just me. Its about our future prospects, my kids prospects and the chance to be part of something special. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_fadiator Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 I'm currently sitting in England and by my reckoning at least 100% of people couldn't care less. I regularly work in England, albeit London, and the view I've encountered is really just banter. "Oh, we won't let you in next month" etc. And several people have said they completely understand any breakaway from Westminster and Scotland's desire to govern itself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redstevie007 Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 I have a career too, but in my mind this is bigger than just me. Its about our future prospects, my kids prospects and the chance to be part of something special. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Lanark Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 My career is absolutely dependent on a No vote. I'm voting Yes and I'll find another job. Good on you, mate. That's the spirit. And you'll find another job whatever field you're in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antidote Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Well done on the spelling there including that big six letter word. Well done for being a pr*ck ya pr*ck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redstevie007 Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 ...whatever field you're in. RAF. Hoping for the Chief of the Air Staff job in the SDF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wine bibber Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Fair enough but they are in the same line of business and I have ended up placating for for you lot. some of us have careerscareers Careers don't last forever independence does. I'm self employed .If i believed the lies of the Corrupt NO's i would have no income on Friday and no means of getting another income.I have a lot more to lose than career individuals.I have never hesitated ,not once to vote for equality in my working life and i have encountered racism from colleagues many times in the past 20 odd years You must have faith.Do they pour scorn on Irish professionals from Dublin or Americans from New York.Respect will come your way very quickly and they will be forced to treat you as an equal. If you have a skill you will be valued whether your black ,white Muslim or Scottish.Vote YES stand up for yourself and be confident of your own abliity . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_fadiator Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 RAF. Hoping for the Chief of the Air Staff job in the SDF How are your colleagues voting? Presumably 'no' in big numbers? I was leafleting the other day and a guy in army uniform took a leaflet and said he was voting yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redstevie007 Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 How are your colleagues voting? Presumably 'no' in big numbers? I was leafleting the other day and a guy in army uniform took a leaflet and said he was voting yes. I would say the majority are going 'No' due to a number of factors: loyalty to the forces (which I still feel too incidentally), personal circumstances, future career prospects etc. I've been surpised though that among my forces friends and colleagues there are a surprising and pleasing number who think like me and will be voting Yes. This is far bigger that personal gains or losses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exglasgowasc Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 People who know me know where I work and I too am voting myself out of a job. There are very very few yes voters where I work. I am surrounded by military personnel who for reasons that redstevie has outlined are all voting no. If it's a yes vote i reckon I would have two years left max before the building is closed and the jobs are transferred south. With the current reduction in armed forces numbers I may only have another couple of years left here anyway but also as redstevie says, you need to see the bigger picture rather than your own personal gain or loss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larky Masher Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Well done for being a pr*ck ya pr*ck. Oh the banter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hessen Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 People who know me know where I work and I too am voting myself out of a job. There are very very few yes voters where I work. I am surrounded by military personnel who for reasons that redstevie has outlined are all voting no. If it's a yes vote i reckon I would have two years left max before the building is closed and the jobs are transferred south. With the current reduction in armed forces numbers I may only have another couple of years left here anyway but also as redstevie says, you need to see the bigger picture rather than your own personal gain or loss. It has been the UK Govt that has been cutting the armed forces in Scotland, and after this scare even if the vote is no, history tells you whose jobs they will be cutting first Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Saint Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 People from the rest of the UK have mostly been ignored during this campaign. Whilst Foggy, Compo and Clegg rush to offer Scotland all these last minute deals, little concern is being given to how it would affect the RUK or what we might think about it. You hear the occasional voice from Wales protesting that they should get the same deal, but it's not given any prominence. Gordon Brown keeps talking about how the UK is going to change even if there is a No vote, but has he asked people in the RUK if we want anything to change? Maybe we do, maybe we don't, but what right does he have to tell us what is going to happen? The problem here is that the Better Together folks were complacent. They thought that they could do nothing and Scotland would vote No. That's why, although they mentioned possible changes, they didn't actually bother to take any serious steps to introduce or even debate them. If the UK needed the changes that are now being hastily promised, why weren't they discussed (and introduced, if suitable) earlier on? Gordon Brown had the best part of 15 years in power to change the UK, and Cameron and Clegg have had four years. Why wasn't anything done? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larky Masher Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 The problem here is that the Better Together folks were complacent. They thought that they could do nothing and Scotland would vote No. That's why, although they mentioned possible changes, they didn't actually bother to take any serious steps to introduce or even debate them. If the UK needed the changes that are now being hastily promised, why weren't they discussed (and introduced, if suitable) earlier on? Gordon Brown had the best part of 15 years in power to change the UK, and Cameron and Clegg have had four years. Why wasn't anything done? Totally agree, the Yes campaign isn't actually going to win this vote it's BT who will have lost it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotlad Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 People from the rest of the UK have mostly been ignored during this campaign. Whilst Foggy, Compo and Clegg rush to offer Scotland all these last minute deals, little concern is being given to how it would affect the RUK or what we might think about it. You hear the occasional voice from Wales protesting that they should get the same deal, but it's not given any prominence. Gordon Brown keeps talking about how the UK is going to change even if there is a No vote, but has he asked people in the RUK if we want anything to change? Maybe we do, maybe we don't, but what right does he have to tell us what is going to happen? The problem here is that the Better Together folks were complacent. They thought that they could do nothing and Scotland would vote No. That's why, although they mentioned possible changes, they didn't actually bother to take any serious steps to introduce or even debate them. If the UK needed the changes that are now being hastily promised, why weren't they discussed (and introduced, if suitable) earlier on? Gordon Brown had the best part of 15 years in power to change the UK, and Cameron and Clegg have had four years. Why wasn't anything done? Exactly. This is basically a bribe, and a potentially undeliverable one at that. Back in February, when they were still absolutely certain they would win, the UK government tried to land a knock-out blow by refusing the CU. In doing so, however, they misjudged the Scottish pscyche - we tend not to like being dictated to. So now that the stick has failed, out comes the carrot. Even if they were true to their word and tried to get the powers through parliament, there is no guarantee that English backbenchers will vote them through. Why would they? What benefit are their constituents going to get from them? Fair play to Boris Johnson and Louise Mensch (I never thought I'd type those words) because at least they are being honest in question the logic of offering more powers to people who have just indicated that they are happy with things the way they are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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