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Will people really abandon labour? I find it hard to imagine, especially as there will be sympathetic saturation media coverage in Scotland of Ed Milliband as the only choice to 'keep out the Tories'. We all know now that people do as they are told by the media. Would love it if people had seen through them now though.

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4.000 people have joined the SNP in the last 48 hours, I'll bet a lot of them are former Labour members.

I'm going to travel to Jim Murphy's count in next years election just to watch his face as he realises he's suddenly unemployed.

I'm gonna fly across, buy you a pint and we can get a taxi from there to watch Lamont being humiliated.

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4.000 people have joined the SNP in the last 48 hours, I'll bet a lot of them are former Labour members.

I'm going to travel to Jim Murphy's count in next years election just to watch his face as he realises he's suddenly unemployed.

Wouldn't count on Murphy being done out of the MP gig here in East Ren. Far too many selfish, yuppie wankshafts with more money than brains round here in Newton Mearns, Giffnock and Clarkston who think he's the second coming.

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This country will never achieve it's full potential until people start seeing through the charade that is the Labour party.

People hate the Tories, but they never claim to be anything other than exactly what they are. Whereas Labour have consistently led the people to believe they have their best interests at heart, when they only believe in lining their own pockets. This has always been the left's problem and seemingly always will be.

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Will people really abandon labour? I find it hard to imagine, especially as there will be sympathetic saturation media coverage in Scotland of Ed Milliband as the only choice to 'keep out the Tories'. We all know now that people do as they are told by the media. Would love it if people had seen through them now though.

with there being two levels of MPs in the cards (second class regional ones there to cash expenses but unable to vote on most of parliamentary business and proper ones from England with full voting powers). Why would any one see this as a a way to keep out the torys. Whatever we send down are unable to curb whatever the torys do as they'll be the majority of the premier MPs (unless ukip come in strong)
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I love my local Labour MP, she's an absolute star and does so much good in the community. If the SNP put up a decent candidate, she will lose her seat and it will be a real loss for Cunningham North. My disgust at Labour is so palpable that I can't, and won't use my Vote to back their representative that I respect so much. They're finished.

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I love my local Labour MP, she's an absolute star and does so much good in the community. If the SNP put up a decent candidate, she will lose her seat and it will be a real loss for Cunningham North. My disgust at Labour is so palpable that I can't, and won't use my Vote to back their representative that I respect so much. They're finished.

The obvious answer is you, as a constituent, write or go to a surgery along with other like minded people and explain your thoughts. Ask her to defect or become an independent.... Then you'll see if her allegiance is to the party or If she is in the game to help her constituents.
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Labour for Independence Official Statement

I would like to begin this statement by offering a huge thanks to all of our activists, members and supporters over the last 30 months. With your support we were able to grow from a Facebook page to a political organisation whose logo, name and political view made it’s way into the very heart of the referendum campaign.

The people of Scotland have spoken, with the highest turnout in a generation, while we are disappointed, devastated and grief stricken at the result we must accept it as the will of the people of Scotland, who at this particular moment in our nations history have decided to vote no. We must follow the words of Margo MacDonald and come together as a people to ensure that we enforce Westminster’s pledge of more powers for Scotland. We cannot let the outer fringes of our national debate work to destroy our national pride.

If I can be permitted to speak personally in this official statement. The most difficult part for me in the fallout of this vote was to have to face my three sons yesterday morning knowing that we have let them and their generation down. I picked up my 5 month old son and whispered an apology to him with tears rolling down my face. Instinctively he leaned in to comfort his dad, for about 3 seconds, then he leaned back and slapped me across the face as babies do. I took it in the spirit I hope he meant. Your 3 seconds of grief are over, it’s time to continue the fight.

I consider my family to be fortunate, we do not have riches, but we are not one of the 800,000 living in poverty in Scotland. My children do not have everything they want but they are not one of the 1 in 4 living in poverty in this country. While often we have endured tough times we are not one of the thousands who have had to use food banks in Scotland this year.

These issues are why we campaigned for a yes vote and they are still the issues we will fight for. We have not been alone in this campaign. I am proud that we have shared a platform with Jeane Freeman, Jim Sillars, Colin Fox, Jonathon Shafi, Carolyn Leckie, Cat Boyd, John Finnie and Jeane Urquhart. We consider them and the great many of their parties, groups and individuals who follow them as brothers and sisters in our cause. This also includes a great many of our comrades throughout Yes Scotland’s local areas. It comes as no surprise that the regions who voted yes have real Labour values and traditions running through their core.

This is why the sights and sounds from the Labour leadership during this campaign have been particularly difficult to swallow. From Johann Lamont’s ‘something for nothing society’ to her smiling outside Asda at the claims that their prices would rise after a yes vote, inflicting more hardship and despair among the working class and poor. From the high fives with Tories at many counts to Jim Murphy’s embrace with Annabel Goldie in Clydebank of all places. I am fully aware of the dejection and despondency many Labour members and supporters feel at this time. I fully accept the personal decisions of all our supporters to re-examine their affiliations with not only the party but also Labour for Independence.

It is for this reason that I, my fellow Co-Convenor Deborah Waters, invite our executive, prominent Labour supporters of LFI and delegates of each of the 32 regions which voted in Scotland to a meeting in Glasgow on October 4th. This meeting will decide what, if any future Labour for Independence will have and how we move forward. I also invite those names I mentioned above to a separate meeting that same day to discuss how we can maintain the solidarity shared throughout the left in this campaign moving forward.

Our wounds are very raw at this moment, now is the time for reflection and renewal. It is through our endeavours that Dundee, West Dunbartonshire, North Lanarkshire and Glasgow voted for the opportunity for change. It is why many in our nation, the 45% yearn for a better way. We owe it to them to come together and consider our future choices, for the betterment of our nation.

Allan Grogan

Co-Convenor and National Spokesperson of Labour for Independence.

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The obvious answer is you, as a constituent, write or go to a surgery along with other like minded people and explain your thoughts. Ask her to defect or become an independent.... Then you'll see if her allegiance is to the party or If she is in the game to help her constituents.

To give Katy her due, she is the only Labour MP I know of who consulted her constituents on how she should represent them with regards to the referendum. Of course this was back when polls were showing 35% support, but she asked nonetheless.

I've already written to her yesterday, expressing my disgust at the stance that her party took and the manner in which they campaigned. I'll post her reply when I receive it, which I know she will... As she always does <3

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I would prefer labour got the hollyrood gig and let them explain bedroom tax etc to their loyal supporters , the saltire boy on you tube sums it up for me chuck all your austerity measures hard as you like to scotland and fukk em , thats whit they wanted . Mon the 45 !

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