irnbruman Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 Just been watching BBC news report on police questioning of suspects in Portugal. First of all the reporting is disgraceful - BBC trying as far as they can to insinuate that Robert Muhrat is responsible . Where is the evidence to back this up apart from the fact that he was a suspect. Surely the main suspect would have been a bit closer to home but I think there is a complete Establishment cover up going on here for some reason - why on earth waste so called scarce police resources on this wild goose chase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alibi Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 Interesting this guy being back in the frame the same day there was an excellent drama on ITV about "suspect" in the murder of that Joanna girl in Bristol a few years ago - basically demonised by the press because he was a bit eccentric when he had nothing to do with the murder. Our media are a disgrace, and not just when it comes to murder suspects - their treatment of some anti-establishment politicians is equally reprehensible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobydoo Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 No this shite again. If it had been a bairn from a council estate it'd all be forgotten about by now. Parents would have served half their sentence by now if they'd confessed years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 A few years back i spent a bit looking into this, seems pretty shady to me, and not in the context of the the Portuguese being shit at investigations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maq Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 A few years back i spent a bit looking into this, seems pretty shady to me, and not in the context of the the Portuguese being shit at investigations. My wife was at an 'at risk Children' conference about a month ago through her work, and a polis woman started talking about the McCann case, being very critical, and hinting that the UK police were not convinced at all with the McCann's themselves. Which I thought was pretty unprofessional to be talking about! Dunno if she was speaking out of turn, or just giving her own opinion on what she'd read in the papers, or how much she would actually know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Man Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 I have some Portugese friends and they've blamed police incompetence from the start. One of my friends is a lawyer who's been working on Casa Pia case for years now and always told me Portugal is not a destination for families with young children. I have no idea what happened but I don't think the McCann's are guilty, we live in country where children are raped every day with impunity so if they are involved in some sort of child rape ring then they could have given up their daughter easily without any publicity. I think they were guilty of being like many, many modern parents, study, build a career, decide to have children, can't, receive IVF. have children, refuse to change lifestyle to suit children rather than themselves, go on holidays and instead of risk screaming children at table leave them in hotel, etc. All of this is just my own personal view as no one apart from the guilty know what really happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mindimoo Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 I have some Portugese friends and they've blamed police incompetence from the start. One of my friends is a lawyer who's been working on Casa Pia case for years now and always told me Portugal is not a destination for families with young children. I have no idea what happened but I don't think the McCann's are guilty, we live in country where children are raped every day with impunity so if they are involved in some sort of child rape ring then they could have given up their daughter easily without any publicity. I think they were guilty of being like many, many modern parents, study, build a career, decide to have children, can't, receive IVF. have children, refuse to change lifestyle to suit children rather than themselves, go on holidays and instead of risk screaming children at table leave them in hotel, etc. All of this is just my own personal view as no one apart from the guilty know what really happened. Would like to add, those who were interviewed this time were NOT interviewed as suspects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flora MaDonald Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 At the end of the day, it's a wee girl missing. FFS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scouse Eddie Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 And it's wrong to think her parents had something to do with their daughter going missing. As Flora has put it it's a wee girl we are talking about going missing.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huddersfield Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 If they had lived on a housing estate somewhere & their child vanished whilst they were sat in a pub across the road, would the media have been as sympathetic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnie x Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 No. Being a middle class doctor in this country gets you automatic respect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Man Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 I'm sure the media wouldn't but I hope I would be. We tend to get the media we deserve, if people don't like it the papers don't sell and close down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Col Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 is there anybody left in Portugal they haven't questioned yet? Infinite monkey theorem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamia Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 Did they spend this much time and effort on Ben Needham Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde1998 Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 (edited) And it's wrong to think her parents had something to do with their daughter going missing. Well - they did in the sense that they shouldn't be leaving a four(?) year old girl alone in an unlocked apartment. Surely that's child negligence - not giving a child, that young, supervision. Edited December 13, 2014 by Clyde1998 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASTA Mick Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 Well - they did in the sense that they shouldn't be leaving a four(?) year old girl alone in an unlocked apartment. Surely that's child negligence - not giving a child, that young, supervision. Yes, they made a big mistake. They are being punished for it every day. I honestly can't imagine how anyone copes with their child going missing and never being found. Makes me sad even thinking about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scouse Eddie Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 Yes, they made a big mistake. They are being punished for it every day. I honestly can't imagine how anyone copes with their child going missing and never being found. Makes me sad even thinking about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoltanBuchan Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 They still won't admit they made a mistake in leaving their kids home alone though! Unbelievable. Anyway - wot I reckon: A couple of days after she disappeared, the McCanns met with a local priest. Not sure if it was a proper 'Confession', in the Catholic sense of the word, but said priest subsequently would have nothing to do with them. Would love to know what they told him... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flora MaDonald Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 Even for all my sins, the bairn would accompany me in the the tavern. For all their holy chapel shite - they are guilty as sin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mindimoo Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 Yes, they made a big mistake. They are being punished for it every day. I honestly can't imagine how anyone copes with their child going missing and never being found. Makes me sad even thinking about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flora MaDonald Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 My faither died when I was 2, so my maw took me everywhere. An auld Mannie tried to grab me on the beach in Aberdeen, and my maw kicked phuqq oot him. Whatever happened, it's bloody heartbreaking, but they should never have left the kids on their own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tartandon Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 Well - they did in the sense that they shouldn't be leaving a four(?) year old girl alone in an unlocked apartment. Surely that's child negligence - not giving a child, that young, supervision. Then in the police interviews in the immediate aftermath, when most normal couples would be giving as much info as possible to aid in the hunt for their child, the McCanns kept answering 'no comment' to the majority of the questions. It stinks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mindimoo Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 My faither died when I was 2, so my maw took me everywhere. An auld Mannie tried to grab me on the beach in Aberdeen, and my maw kicked phuqq oot him. Whatever happened, it's bloody heartbreaking, but they should never have left the kids on their own.A woman tried to abduct me in blackpool when I was about 3 or 4. I was with my mum and family in a department store. If someone is set on taking a child they will regardless of whether the child is left alone or not. Until we know the facts of that night in Portugal we all need to stop judging the McCann's parenting. We all do stupid stuff as parents and I can't hang them out to dry without knowing the facts.I'm sure I'm not the only person on here who was left outside the pub with a packet of crisps and a cola. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Endell Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 My grandfather used to leave me in the car outside the Auldhouse Arms - a can of coke and and a packet of ready salted bought my silence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mindimoo Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 My grandfather used to leave me in the car outside the Auldhouse Arms - a can of coke and and a packet of ready salted bought my silence. It was glass bottles in my day. I got a bit fussy and insisted on salted peanuts and tomato juice. Must have cost them a bloody fortune! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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