Squirrelhumper Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 According to the UEFA country rankings it's: Spain (by some margin) England a fraction better than Germany Then Italy a distant fourth. Germany will overtake England for next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JECK Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 Rarely watch Europa league games but decided to watch purely for Naismith. Was immense I thought and couldnt believe his finish, didn't think he was capable of a ruthless sort of van persie esq smash home, was superb stuff watching it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgowmancity Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 (edited) Robroysboy I don't think it is even open for debate. No EPL club has even made the final of the Champions League in the last two years and no winners or finalists in the Europa League in even more years than that. That is the acid proof. When did Chelsea win the Europa league? In case you can't google it was 2 years ago. Also, in the last 10 years of the CL England have had 8 finalists, Spain have had 5 finalists, Germany have had 4 finalists & Italy have had 3 finalists. Not quite sure what you were trying to prove with your stats & made up stats? Edited November 7, 2014 by Glasgowmancity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auld_Reekie Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 Agree with comments saying he's first name on the team sheet - hope he cant start turning his goal tally round next week. That said, I'm not convinced Naismith and Fletcher are on the same wavelength as a pairing - was very disappointed in them against Georgia and if I was being brutally honest, I wasn't 100% sure they wanted to play together. Hopefully proved wrong next week as both as in form. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goozay Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 Really glad he scored in Warsaw, he missed chances in Dortmund and at home to Georgia - the kind he was sticking away for Everton - so hopefully that's a monkey of his back and he can go into the Ireland game full of confidence. Himself and Steven Fletcher have yet to click on the park but the partnership makes sense on paper so worth preserving with for now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 We need to continue with him playing just behind Fletcher though. Absolutely. I don't think we've seen anywhere near the best of this partnership Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShedTA Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 Absolutely. I don't think we've seen anywhere near the best of this partnership well i hope we see it soon. No doubt naismith has got what it takes but in general I have been underwhelmed by his performances for scotland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErsatzThistle Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 I think it's been a case of Naismith and Fletcher needing a couple of games to get used to one another's style of play. Just wish when Naismith is inside the box with the ball, he would resist the urge to take about 700 touches on the ball before shooting, just put yir bloody foot through it man ! Does my head in when he does that but opposition central defenders love it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GRBear Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 He's flying at the moment and his confidence must be sky high. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 (edited) well i hope we see it soon. No doubt naismith has got what it takes but in general I have been underwhelmed by his performances for scotland There's been flashes of brilliance for us, mainly Spain at home but yeah, he's due a big performance Edited November 7, 2014 by ParisInAKilt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davew Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 Also, in the last 10 years of the CL England have had 8 finalists, Spain have had 5 finalists, Germany have had 4 finalists & Italy have had 3 finalists. Not quite sure what you were trying to prove with your stats & made up stats? From 2008 till 2012 - 5 years in a row - England was top of the UEFA country rankings. Basically between Man U winning the Champions League and Chelsea winning it. Before that Spain were number 1 for 8 years in a row. For the last two years Spain has been number 1 again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 There's been flashes of brilliance for us, mainly Spain at home but yeah, he's due a big performance Holland at home he was immense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErsatzThistle Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 Holland at home he was immense. Aye he was good that night. I remember being angry when I saw him listed in the team because he wasn't playing regularly for Rangers back then. He was great against the Dutch and became a regular for club and country not long afterwards. Had a goal wrongly called offside in that match didn't he ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parklife Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 Holland at home he was immense.Yeah. The amount of headers he won was incredible. I mind van bronkhorst stopped even going for headers against Naismith as he'd lost every one previously Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotsgary1 Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 If you asked me three years ago would we have two in form strikers for an international of this stature I would have bitten your hand off. Why all the negativity here. IMO the best forward line up we have had in a decade. Positive players,playing at the top level. What else you want.................... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
girvanTA Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 True, a wee bit thin on quality fot defence but other than that we have the makings of a really good side Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronaldhinos dentist Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 true. at one point in Germany we had anya, fletcher and naismith all up front. that is a potent forward line. defensively we are poor, but we carry a goal threat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotsgary1 Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 Yes its a step forward from no strikers against Czech rep. Or Miller running about on his own like headless chicken. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 Yeah. The amount of headers he won was incredible. I mind van bronkhorst stopped even going for headers against Naismith as he'd lost every one previously Aye that's my abiding memory. I saw how good he was for us. I felt for him when he was getting ripped at Rangers and Everton after two bad injuries. He's bounced back each time to be a massive player for both clubs. He's an brilliant wee guy off the field too. I remember I presented him with TAMB young player of the year I think with Bunnet (remember him) and YNTTK. Great ambassador for killie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weekevie04 Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 He's done brilliant and glad I got it wrong. I was one of those writing him off as being punted to Watford etc, but he's a good player. One thing I dislike is his wee man syndrome. I wish he'd just get on with it - you'll always see him chibbing away at the ref after someone having had the balls to try and tackle him, and he's up waving his heid, shouting away. I fear he's moments away from a senseless booking/suspension. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robroysboy Posted November 8, 2014 Author Share Posted November 8, 2014 I feared his retrospective punishment for an elbow may have affected him. Was he playing under levience at the time. Was it against serbia ? He has been one of the main consistent attacking players, more so since snoddy has been out injured. Hope snodgrass is back to contribute in some of next years fixtures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1320lichtie Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 He's done brilliant and glad I got it wrong. I was one of those writing him off as being punted to Watford etc, but he's a good player. One thing I dislike is his wee man syndrome. I wish he'd just get on with it - you'll always see him chibbing away at the ref after someone having had the balls to try and tackle him, and he's up waving his heid, shouting away. I fear he's moments away from a senseless booking/suspension. I love the fact he's a wee moany bass, shows how much he cares and that attitude means he always gives 100 percent, if he wasn't like that he'd be a very different player. I've played with guys like that, the boys that don't care and shrug it off still put in the effort but the boys who get so angry at everything that goes against them give much more it's great having a teammate like that IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 I love the fact he's a wee moany bass, shows how much he cares and that attitude means he always gives 100 percent, if he wasn't like that he'd be a very different player. I've played with guys like that, the boys that don't care and shrug it off still put in the effort but the boys who get so angry at everything that goes against them give much more it's great having a teammate like that IMO. Agreed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glasgow jock Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 He's done brilliant and glad I got it wrong. I was one of those writing him off as being punted to Watford etc, but he's a good player. One thing I dislike is his wee man syndrome. I wish he'd just get on with it - you'll always see him chibbing away at the ref after someone having had the balls to try and tackle him, and he's up waving his heid, shouting away. I fear he's moments away from a senseless booking/suspension. Disagree mate - shows his desire to win, great attitude to have on the pitch, long may it continue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 I love the fact he's a wee moany bass, shows how much he cares and that attitude means he always gives 100 percent, if he wasn't like that he'd be a very different player. I've played with guys like that, the boys that don't care and shrug it off still put in the effort but the boys who get so angry at everything that goes against them give much more it's great having a teammate like that IMO. Agree, that's what I'm like when I play, happy to admit I'm a moany and aggressive , shame I'm pish. When players like that get riled up they play better. My dad always said I was at my best when someone kicked me or hacked me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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