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Aye, if only Scots had voted it would have been an AYE.. but we define Scots as those who live and work here, And IMO thats how it should be.

Although i think the residency should have been 3 maybe 5 years, before you got to vote,

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This was in the record.

do not fall in to the trap of nats coming across as anti English, braveheart types. Thats the only reason for this poll

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WOW Church of Scotland 60% no FFS

Church of England 80% no, fair enuf

But The national Church of the Country sayin NO..... Thats no right....

Wonder how many go to church or just call themselves Church Of Scotland ....

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Top Earner - 46.8% Yes

Low Earner - 42.4% Yes :blink:

The Yes campaign didn't engage the working class, the RIC could only reach so many. Middle class politics and corporate wooing dominated the mainstream campaign. I wouldn't be surprised if those figures were accurate.

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This was in the record.

do not fall in to the trap of nats coming across as anti English, braveheart types. Thats the only reason for this poll

I don't think anyone is.

But the media will paint it as that anyway, or just make it up if they can't find evidence.

Genuine mainstream anti-Scottishness from down south in this GE campaign isn't reported in Scotland.

There is no pretence of an equal union any more, why should we tread on eggshells while they treat us as 2nd class.

F*ck them all. F*ck the media, f*ck Westminster, f*ck the UK and f*ck the English/British establishment.

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I don't think anyone is.

But the media will paint it as that anyway, or just make it up if they can't find evidence.

Genuine mainstream anti-Scottishness from down south in this GE campaign isn't reported in Scotland.

There is no pretence of an equal union any more, why should we tread on eggshells while they treat us as 2nd class.

F*ck them all. F*ck the media, f*ck Westminster, f*ck the UK and f*ck the English/British establishment.

Aye indeed

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It's a bit simplistic to say that people born in the rest of the UK have chosen to live here and are not Scottish. There will be plenty of people born in the rest of the UK who at the time of birth would have classified themselves Scottish and then moved to Scotland in later life. And vice versa.

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Might sound sour grapes but I do think the residency for voting on future referendums might be worth looking at to be honest.

I know of Australians on working visas currently living in Edinburgh working in financial services that had a right to a vote, and were scared from the propoganda into voting No.

It's not directly comparable but I do find myself thinking of when I was on working visa in Sydney in 2000 when the Republic referendum was on. That a passing worker could have been able to vote on such a fundamental national item would be have been utterly unthinkable, and quite correct imo.

As for only 3% swayed by the Vow, the headline figure might indeed be true. I don't think it persuaded that many - what it did do, crucially, was give those who were always probably going to vote No, a way to do so without feeling guilt. To vote against the independence of your country with the whole world looking on is not something would do lightly, so in context of whole bunch of fears on currencies, EU and the rest when a nice and shiny gift wrapped 2nd prize is offered at the 11th hour it allowed a validation of voting No. Without this maybe it wouldn't have seen many Nos to Yes, but there would have been plenty and I mean plenty of abstensions.The Vow did make the difference, no question at all as far as I am concerned.

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I actually had this argument with an English bloke at a party a couple of week ago when he said I was anti english for wanting independence. Pointed out the above was a possibility but 99.9% of yes voters have accepted the result and got on with things, no riots (well apart from the loyalists at george sq).

It's only a matter of time

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Aside from what the Liecord has reported, I had head that a lot of foreign immigrants from the former Communist bloc such as Poland and Lithuania had voted no. Always felt that to be odd considering what these people had to go through to finally gain their freedom in their homeland. Perhaps scared by the lies and propaganda spouted by BT and MSM?

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