Ok I must appologise to real fans and fair play to new members of the ssc but come on how many are just joining for the orgasm of. The England game sorry but get a grip, and yes not one of the elite due to finances and family commitments but me last campaign I was there in Germany Poland Gibraltar and yes even Georgia and I'm now struggling to get enough tickets to prauge bit you know what I'm a loyal supporter and I'm sick of hearing about so fans so please don't whinge that you can't get on the ladder