Toepoke Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Would a united Ireland team be stronger? Hard to say at the moment. Definitely at times in the past when both teams had some exceptional players. Having a larger pool to pick from couldn't be detrimental though. I mind reading George Best's autobiography and he said he would have loved to have been part of an all-Ireland team, but too many blazers would lose out if the FAs merged so it would be highly unlikely... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iainmac1 Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 How about the Scottish planters leave the north of Ireland and we'll take back the Irish immigrants from Glasgow. All would be rosy then! Or we could expand the plantations and send you over all our unionists Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBoysinGreen Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 (edited) Or we could expand the plantations and send you over all our unionists No thanks. You sent over enough to Ulster!! Edited October 22, 2014 by TheBoysinGreen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimmage Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Don't the FAI still select Northern Irish players who want to play for them even if they aren't eligable through normal FIFA rules. But it doesn't work the other way around. Northern Ireland can't select players from the Republic outside normal elegibility. Alex Bruce - born in England , declared for Ireland and capped in friendlies but now plays for Northern Ireland LOL !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Hunt Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Of course they will have a big support but ours will be much, much bigger and louder. Must win game for us - everyone agree that this game is much more important than the friendly four days later? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weekevie04 Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Northern Ireland effectively choose to select players exclusively from Northern Ireland be they Catholic, Protestant or whatever religon. For some reason they don't call up players from the south...probably due to the large number who would reject their advances. The Republic of Ireland call up players form all creeds and its up to the player whether he wants to play for the south or north. Many Catholics have opted for the north. Fecked up is right ha! Interesting. I didn't know that Northern Ireland could call up players from the Republic. Amazed Michael O'Neill hasn't looked in to this, considering he has called up quite a few English, Scottish players. Although you would imagine he'd be picking at the bit part players not wanted by Eire - surely, a few would be interested? In getting international football, further their profile, a possible move and considering how well NI have started their campaign, even get to a major finals! I think a few players have done it - Alex Bruce, and don't know if he was capped but Shane Ferguson was linked from NI to Eire, but opted for NI. Fascinating stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
France here we come Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 . Must win game for us - everyone agree that this game is much more important than the friendly four days later? Only a complete and utter jobby would tell you any different Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weekevie04 Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Yeah both are true along with Alan Maybury. Contrary to popular belief very few people in the Republic of Ireland support Celtic. We'd all watch them on Wednesday night if they played Barcelona but that's about the extent of. We all feel indifferent towards them with a lot slightly embarrased by how our national flag has been hijacked by their fans to deliver a particular political stance. The Irish who'll be travelling to Glasgow will have very little in common with the Celtic fans in Glasgow. That's almost word for word what he would say about Celtic. I'm sure he's even said that Barcelona on a Wednesday night thing too. He's a Shells and Liverpool fan with a very, very nothing more than softly soft spot for Dundee Utd (formely Hibs) rather than Celtic when it comes to the SPL. He even made the mistake of saying he liked 'Dundee' when over here to my Arab(Utd) supporting mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helen Donegan Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Is there the same thing in Northern Ireland with people pissed off that other people like Helen support a foreign country over their own one... You what??? A foreign country???? Ireland???? What are you talking about? You think the north of Ireland is a country??????????????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irishandproud Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 This the same Helen that posted on ybig when we were in Bari in 2009? There couldn't be 2 surely.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBoysinGreen Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 (edited) Nobody from the Republic in their right mind would play for Northern Ireland. They've no affinity with the gerrymanderd place Edited October 22, 2014 by TheBoysinGreen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iainmac1 Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 You what??? A foreign country???? Ireland???? What are you talking about? You think the north of Ireland is a country??????????????? As much a country as Scotland is. Ok let's call it the UK then. Does it annoy people in that region of the UK that you support a foreign country rather than your region of your country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1320lichtie Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 You what??? A foreign country???? Ireland???? What are you talking about? You think the north of Ireland is a country??????????????? Ireland is an island with 2 countries occupying it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gspain Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 (edited) RoI born players cannot play for NI unless they have a NI born parent or grandparent. Almost anyone born on the island of Ireland qualifies for an Irish passport and thus for the RoI. It is a bone of contention for those north of the border. Alex Bruce qualified due to a NI born grandparent. He was actually at the 1994 World Cup as a kid supporting us. We now have a large support in NI and this will be really obvious in Glasgow. Edited October 22, 2014 by gspain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBoysinGreen Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Ireland is an island with 2 countries occupying it To be fair it's debatable whether the north is country or not. It was created in very dubious terms. It always surprises me that people in the UK have little or no knowledge of the situation up there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helen Donegan Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 As much a country as Scotland is. Ok let's call it the UK then. Does it annoy people in that region of the UK that you support a foreign country rather than your region of your country. The north of Ireland is a country the same as Scotland??? I am sorry, I really don't know what you mean. I am Irish, I was born in Ireland and so were my parents and grandparents - who else would I support except Ireland? I have always support Italy as my second team because my son is Italian (and Italian men are soooooo beautiful) and Scotland when they play anyone but the first 2 teams Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helen Donegan Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Ireland is an island with 2 countries occupying it :-)) :-)) now that really made me laugh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBoysinGreen Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 (edited) To be fair there are effectively two different states on the island the moment. At least admit that Helen. When you lived in north of Ireland where did your taxes go to? Edited October 22, 2014 by TheBoysinGreen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iainmac1 Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 The north of Ireland is a country the same as Scotland??? I am sorry, I really don't know what you mean. I am Irish, I was born in Ireland and so were my parents and grandparents - who else would I support except Ireland? I have always support Italy as my second team because my son is Italian (and Italian men are soooooo beautiful) and Scotland when they play anyone but the first 2 teams So were you born in northern Ireland or the Republic of Ireland? Two different places Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColemanY2K Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 RoI born players cannot play for NI unless they have a NI born parent or grandparent. Almost anyone born on the island of Ireland qualifies for an Irish passport and thus for the RoI. It is a bone of contention for those north of the border. Alex Bruce qualified due to a NI born grandparent. He was actually at the 1994 World Cup as a kid supporting us. We now have a large support in NI and this will be really obvious in Glasgow. oops my mistake. I thought they could select players from the south. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBoysinGreen Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 So were you born in northern Ireland or the Republic of Ireland? Two different places People in the north can get an Irish passport and offically have that as their nationality Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irishandproud Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 To be fair it's debatable whether the north is country or not. It was created in very dubious terms. It always surprises me that people in the UK have little or no knowledge of the situation up there It's not a country, never was and never will be, absolute joke shop that debate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBoysinGreen Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Can a Scotsman actually tell me how "Northern Ireland" came about? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willmcc83 Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Nobody from the Republic in their right mind would play for Northern Ireland. They've no affinity with the gerrymanderd place Several have. More players from the South have played for the North than the other way around - Dinny Hannon, Bill Lacey, Patsy Gallagher, Ed Brookes, Mick O'Brien, Frank Collins, Tom Farquharoson, Christy Martin, Jimmy Dunne, Harry Duggan, Peter Kavanagh, Jimmy Kelly, Alex Stevenson, Paddy Moore, Tommy Breen, Tom Davis, Kevin OFlanagan, Johnny Carey, Owen Madden, Bill Hayes, Bill Gorman, Paddy Farell, Mat OMahoney, Ned Weir, Billy Walsh, Davy Walsh, Tom Aherne, Peter Farrell, TomEglington, Con Martin, Jackie ODriscoll, Rory Keane & Reg Ryan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weekevie04 Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Several have. More players from the South have played for the North than the other way around - Dinny Hannon, Bill Lacey, Patsy Gallagher, Ed Brookes, Mick O'Brien, Frank Collins, Tom Farquharoson, Christy Martin, Jimmy Dunne, Harry Duggan, Peter Kavanagh, Jimmy Kelly, Alex Stevenson, Paddy Moore, Tommy Breen, Tom Davis, Kevin OFlanagan, Johnny Carey, Owen Madden, Bill Hayes, Bill Gorman, Paddy Farell, Mat OMahoney, Ned Weir, Billy Walsh, Davy Walsh, Tom Aherne, Peter Farrell, TomEglington, Con Martin, Jackie ODriscoll, Rory Keane & Reg Ryan How many since let's say the 1900s? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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