kumnio Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Just watching Twat Time on BBC, some woman was moaning about drunks turning up to hospitals using up valuable services. Is she right, or is she a c'nt? Is an injured drunk bloke less worthy of treatment than others? What about an amateur footballer breaking his leg an injured skier a boy racer a lassie who got pregnant by accident an unemployed person who hasnt contributed costs an old person who fell down the stairs after refusing sheltered housing because they want their independence a smoker with cancer Anyone thinking treatment should be restricted to 'responsible' adults only can GTF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishcumnock Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Aye and whit aboot granny royals and fishbones ! When did she work ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 (edited) Did you notice that, during all the talk about he problems with A&E, Ninewells was the only A&E in Scotland which achieved the 98% target 100% of the time. Oor Shona wants all other A&Es to learn from the Ninewells example. Edited January 23, 2015 by Orraloon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kumnio Posted January 23, 2015 Author Share Posted January 23, 2015 I was at Ninewells earlier this month, it was busier than the Overgate, people everywhere The NHS isnt perfect, but right wingers looking for excuses and blaming peopl can GTF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daddybuc16 Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 (edited) I work in the nhs and the nurses and wards are extremely understaffed. Fair enough drunks that come in, are a bit of a pain in the back end and can be aggressive and abusive and the ones that are like that don't do your argument about entitlement any favours. That's the stereotype people have about drunks coming into casualty. But they are not all like that. The people moaning about them would be screaming for an ambulance if they were on a night out and the heel on their stolleto snapped and they went over on their ankle. Think whether people like it or not, we have a healthcare system that entitles you to free healthcare should you ever need it, no matter if yer drunk or sober, young or old, and whether ye have a sprained ankle or something stuck up yer bottom. ETA: think whats grates people is the police end up getting involved and they are lifted out after a couple of hours, without having being treated and that is maybe a cubicle that could have been used for someone who isn't being a *@$#. Edited January 23, 2015 by daddybuc16 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parklife Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 I broke my arm when I was half-cut. It'd been snowing for days and the snow had half melted and then frozen again, making it very icy and slippy underfoot. I fell, put my arm down to break my fall and snapped my upper arm. Phoned an ambulance, when it came the paramedic grabbed my broken arm to lead me in to the ambulance. I then had to direct the ambulance driver to the hospital as she didn't know how to get there. Then at the hospital they put a big heavy stookie on my arm which elongated the fracture. They gave me morphine at the hospital, feeling that course through me was possibly the best feeling I've ever experienced. Was a good night all in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 I broke my arm when I was half-cut. It'd been snowing for days and the snow had half melted and then frozen again, making it very icy and slippy underfoot. I fell, put my arm down to break my fall and snapped my upper arm. Phoned an ambulance, when it came the paramedic grabbed my broken arm to lead me in to the ambulance. I then had to direct the ambulance driver to the hospital as she didn't know how to get there. Then at the hospital they put a big heavy stookie on my arm which elongated the fracture. They gave me morphine at the hospital, feeling that course through me was possibly the best feeling I've ever experienced. Was a good night all in I'm sorry, but i find most of that post very hard to believe. Sounds like you were a wee bit more than "half" cut to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parklife Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 I'm sorry, but i find most of that post very hard to believe. Sounds like you were a wee bit more than "half" cut to me. I don't really give a feck what you believe, to be honest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErsatzThistle Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 When I was in second year I had what you might call an animated discussion with a fifth year (anyway, he started it) at lunchtime and my nose got bashed in pretty badly. Should have seen the black eye I woke up with the next day, it was a proper stunner.The NHS offered to rebuild my nose and take the opportunity to do some surgery that would improve my breathing, it would also mean a wee while off school. It was jolly nice of them but even in my early teens I felt a wee bit guilty about the thought of taking up a bed and medical expertise that would be badly needed elsewhere. So I declined and left my wonky nose as it was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunchy Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 As usual its a case of blame the drunks. Nothing at all to do with the fact that social services budgets have been cut so much that they struggle to get the care in place to let the elderly leave hospital thus meaning that much needed beds are filled by people that don't need them. The hospitals as well have had to cut back as well thus reducing staff numbers and beds. Funny how these parties always go for the easy option or blaming each other instead of getting together and actually doing something to fix issues Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armchair Bob Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 My favourite A&E story is the one about the fella with broken glass in his bladder. Can any hospital staff top that one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fringo Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 What annoys me is people using A&E (supposedly) as a GP service with relatively minor complaints. The clue is in the name "Accident and Emergency". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Endell Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 (edited) What annoys me is people using A&E (supposedly) as a GP service with relatively minor complaints. The clue is in the name "Accident and Emergency". I cut myself shaving and wouldn't stop bleeding. Went round to Boots the Chemists to see if they could give me anything to stop it - said she couldn't help and pointed me in the direction of the Vicky A&E - I was mightily embarrassed but followed her suggestion!! To be fair it's the only time I've used A&E in my puff. It bled for hours and I had to take the morning off work. Edited January 23, 2015 by Charlie Endell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fringo Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 I cut myself shaving and nothing would stop it bleeding. Went round to Boots the Chemists to see if they could give me anything to stop it - said she couldn't help and pointed me in the direction of the Vicky A&E - I was mightily embarrassed but followed her suggestion!! To be fair it's the only time I've used A&E in my puff. It bled for hours and I had to take the morning off work. That's fair enough IMO. If it's bleeding and doesn't stop then that's an A&E sign for me (although depends on the amount). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daddybuc16 Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 That's fair enough IMO. If it's bleeding and doesn't stop then that's an A&E sign for me (although depends on the amount). I had a nose bleed that lasted nearly an hour, my auld man told me i would be fine if i just kept pressure on it. But each time i took the tissue away from it started up again, Apparently you should really go to casualty after 30 mins of non stop bleeding. But who was i to doubt my dad, he did work with the ambulance service after all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mee Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 If someone goes to a and e and it's not an emergency send them home after the triage stage. Ideally make them hang about for 2 hrs and then send them home so they don't do it again. Last time I was in there's we're a lot of elderly folk who looked like they had fallen over and whacked the self and didn't know what was going on. Ageing population is a big factor in this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newtownards Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 As far as I know drunks are treated as anyone else.... unless they are abusive. So..... who cares what she thinks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larky Masher Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 Over the years I've been a hospital 4 times with 5 a side injuries (2 breaks and 2 head cuts needing stitches) and always felt I was treated as if I was there with a self-inflicted injury but at the end of the day I was and you just need to grin and bear it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred_Zeppelin Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 I broke my collar bone playing football while pished. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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