Ally Bongo Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 The Russians have already said this looks like a planned provocation. The only remaining question they will have is was it approved by the US. Either way it is an act of war from a NATO member a planned provocation. How would you feel if you were Russian, even these sanctions will seem weak in comparison. Putin is struggling to find actions that will satisfy the Russian public that don't involve escalating the situation. If that pilot had not been rescued they would have burned him alive and filmed it. The Russians are of the view that the Turks had folk ready on the ground to capture the downed pilots. That was the fate the Turks had in mind for them. If this happens again then things are going to get really ugly. The Russians have pretty much exhausted all the non violent avenues of retaliation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flora MaDonald Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Aside from geographical positioning, how the phuqq did Turkey get into NATO? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scunnered Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Aside from geographical positioning, how the phuqq did Turkey get into NATO? Everyone loves kebabs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Endell Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Aside from geographical positioning, how the phuqq did Turkey get into NATO? Basically to stop it falling under Soviet influence in the 1950s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Endell Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 (edited) Everyone loves kebabs. I love kebabs - I'm less keen on them trying to start WWIII (the Turks, not kebabs - although I suppose wars have started over less). Edited November 29, 2015 by Charlie Endell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Basically to stop it falling under Soviet influence in the 1950s. Aye the Yanks based nukes in Turkey which helped to kickstart the Cuban Missile Crisis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 The Russians should pose as a tennis team and assassinate a general. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Where's the dividing line between depriving Turkish citizens of their means to look after their family, and killing them. One is OK the other is not. Where along the slider of losing jobs to losing life does it become wrong? There seems no debate it is correct to punish them. Just the degree of punishment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Whilst i was over on the Hangover thread I noticed that most folk are looking for ways of fighting the symptoms of the hangover and ignoring the obvious root cause of it. It got me to thinking that bombing Syria might be Cameron's "hair of the dog" "cure" for terrorism? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristolhibby Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Whilst i was over on the Hangover thread I noticed that most folk are looking for ways of fighting the symptoms of the hangover and ignoring the obvious root cause of it. It got me to thinking that bombing Syria might be Cameron's "hair of the dog" "cure" for terrorism? Good analogy.? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biffer Posted December 18, 2015 Author Share Posted December 18, 2015 The Russian jet's black box was damaged and doesn't have complete flight data. Convenient. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-35130953 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 I wonder what this secret deal with the Saudis is all about? http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/uk-government-attempting-to-keep-details-of-secret-security-pact-with-saudi-arabia-hidden-from-a6783376.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 I wonder what this secret deal with the Saudis is all about? http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/uk-government-attempting-to-keep-details-of-secret-security-pact-with-saudi-arabia-hidden-from-a6783376.html Wonder if it was another, stop investigating us or we'll stop sharing intelligence and cause another 7/7 one that Blair made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 Wonder if it was another, stop investigating us or we'll stop sharing intelligence and cause another 7/7 one that Blair made. I'll need to watch BBC propaganda tonight to see if it gets a mention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.thumb.jpg.5eeaf0fbe501ba3c868c32fd77caef1f.jpg)
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.