Jaggy Jim Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 Bemused with the 49ers draft to say the least. Armstead in the 1st round makes sense with Justin Smith almost certain to announce his retirement in the near future. Would be perfect if he played one more year so Armstead could learn from him. The rest of the draft makes very little sense though. In desperate need of an inside linebacker after the retirements of Willis and Borland and the uncertainty around Bowman after a year out with injury, but instead went for an outside backer when there are already 4 good ones on the roster. Other needs are cornerback, didn't pick one, and wide receiver, picked one but is currently injured. Instead spent a 2nd round pick on safety Jacquiski Tartt, who is quite highly rated, but SF drafted safeties in early rounds the last 2 years. Drafted 2 tight ends when there already 6 on the roster, and also picked a punter when in Andy Lee they already have one of the best in the business. Unreal. According to GM Trent Baalke they picked the best player available regardless of position, but that makes little sense when you're trying to rebuild a team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 Deflategate report out Tom Brady cheated Belichick and Kraft not involved http://www.tmz.com/2015/05/06/wells-report-we-dont-believe-patriots-cheated-in-deflategate/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Giant Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 "It is more probable than not" Definitive stuff there. I assume he will get a ban commensurate with punching a woman unconscious in a casino. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaggycoo Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 Deflategate report out Tom Brady cheated Belichick and Kraft not involved http://www.tmz.com/2015/05/06/wells-report-we-dont-believe-patriots-cheated-in-deflategate/ Can see big fines, suspensions and loss of draft picks heading to Boston any time soon!! Cannot believe Belichick wasn't involved, has previous for cheating, sorry, bending the rules with the spygate affair, but imho this is worse than the bountygate scandal and the Saints never got off easy there so....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Giant Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 I think Brady is guilty, but I dont think it has been proven, and the weasel worded way it is put across in the Wells report leaves room for manoeuvre on discipline. I dont understand why they didn't release detail of the discipline at the same time as the report instead of leaving Brady hanging. I sometimes wonder if Roger Goodell attended the Neil Doncaster Leadership Lecture at that university in Leeds. Anyway, I welcome the impending Garoppolo era... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Giant Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 imho this is worse than the bountygate scandal That is ridiculous. Deflation of footballs is worse than intentionally injuring players? Cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggy Jim Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 Las Vegas has stopped taking bets on the Pats v Steelers season opener because they reckon Brady will be suspended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TartanTeddy Posted May 7, 2015 Author Share Posted May 7, 2015 "It is more probable than not" Definitive stuff there. I assume he will get a ban commensurate with punching a woman unconscious in a casino. Was watching NFL today and they explained that the 'more probable than not' shouldn't be taken literally and it's a term that is used within the NFL rules as a point where punitive action can take place. So by them saying that, it actually equates to more of a 'we have found evidence to our satisfaction'. And by all accounts quite a bit of the evidence is fairly damning towards Brady's active involvement. Assume they will look at a suspension and a significant fine but the biggest damage will be to Brady's reputation - America seems to be able to forgive rapists, wife beaters and even murderers but they have a real problem with cheaters. So Tom might find himself on the outside of the Hall of Fame for a good few years to come - which given his talent, is a real shame. TT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 Its just actually mental As a Jets fan it would be easy to have a poke but as TT says, as much as i hate the guy it's only because he is so good Thats what makes it ludicrous - Absolutely no need to seek any illegal advantage when you are the best thats ever been I know it's more of an aid to who is catching it than throwing it but still Madness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Giant Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 I always thought it was to help stop the RB fumbling, but it seems Brady was really particular about it. I still think the report is a joke, full of qualifiers that wouldnt stand up in a real court, not that any of that matters when it comes to NFL discipline. give him a 4 game ban, we'll beat the Steelers and Jags, and lose to the Bills and Cowboys. Then Brady comes back and destroys the Colts in a 'revenge' game in week 6. http://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/n-f-l-sentences-brady-to-a-year-with-the-jets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 http://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/n-f-l-sentences-brady-to-a-year-with-the-jets LOL Was it not something similar with the Saints ? They were found guilty on allegations more than anything Seems to be their line that ignorance is no defence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Giant Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 The NFL/Goodell just seem to make up their disciplinary procedures and judgements as they go along. And they have been embarrassed a few times recently, so will have to try and get this right, under a lot of scrutiny and pressure. On another note, its nice to see the Patriots reestablish their position as the NFLs most hated team after a sustained challenge from the Seahawks. And I am going to the Tennessee game in December, which will now hopefully have more riding on it than otherwise might have been the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 On another note, its nice to see the Patriots reestablish their position as the NFLs most hated team To be fair the Jets have been quite consistant towards you for years ...... As hard as it is to say when it comes to offensive entertainment the Pats have done their bit during all of the regular seasons i can remember give or take the odd couple of games They are bloody marvellous for Sunday night handicap betting And thats the last good thing i'll say about them ...ever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaggycoo Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 That is ridiculous. Deflation of footballs is worse than intentionally injuring players? Cool. I would say so. The Saints took a violent game and offered incentives for bigger hits, the Patriots have looked for a competitive edge, cheated in a game - the NFL hates cheats. The league hammers players using PEDs so teams should be dealt with in the same way. Also, Payton and Co had no knowledge of what Williams was up to in New Orleans but got hammered so Bill and co cannot expect their ignorance in this situation to save them either. Given the Patriots are a more fashionable team than the Saints I'll expect Goodell to go easy here, he won't want to ruin Brady's legacy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaggycoo Posted May 9, 2015 Share Posted May 9, 2015 Elsewhere Dante Fowler Jr, 3rd overall pick, suffers a torn ACL in his first practice for the Jags and is out for the season - brutal!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristolhibby Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 Elsewhere Dante Fowler Jr, 3rd overall pick, suffers a torn ACL in his first practice for the Jags and is out for the season - brutal!! Oooft! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 4 game suspension for Brady and loss of first round draft pick in 2016 Jets play the Pats in week 7 Knew it !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Giant Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 Seems fair enough, might even get the ban reduced on appeal knowing the NFL. The money is irrelevant, but the first round draft pick will hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Bristolhibby Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 Brady getting his punishment halfed? That's my bet. Thoughts? J Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 He had 4 hours to "prove his innocence" So either he does and its wiped out and If he doesnt then it stands It should be increased if perish the though he doesnt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Giant Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 I doubt the fair and proportional punishment will be increased. Carolina tamper with the ball - a warning Minnesota tamper with the ball - a warning San Diego tamper with the ball - fined $20,000 New England tamper with the ball - fined $1,000,000 and docked a 1st and 4th round draft pick. and Brett Favre does not cooperate with the NFL - $50,000 fine Tom Brady does not cooperate with the NFL - 4 game ban and a defacto $1,880,000 fine in lost wages. And Goodell is now potentially a witness, judge and jury. It'll be a show trial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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