EddardStark Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 He is commiting to raising the 20% to 12500 and the 40% to 50k. On top of this scrapping death tax. One has to wonder where the cuts are coming from to tackle deficit. These tax cuts will take another 7bn out of the treasury.Commitment to maintain NHS budget. So what's is in line for privatisation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossy Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 What about his solemn vow to Scotland ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddardStark Posted October 1, 2014 Author Share Posted October 1, 2014 (edited) Hague said it would be delivered without pre conditions. Edited October 1, 2014 by EddardStark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorbotnic Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 He is commiting to raising the 20% to 12500 and the 40% to 50k. On top of this scrapping death tax. One has to wonder where the cuts are coming from to tackle deficit. These tax cuts will take another 7bn out of the treasury.Commitment to maintain NHS budget. So what's is in line for privatisation? Is there anything left? The army? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShedTA Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 running scared of UKIP I would say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShedTA Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 Is there anything left? The army? probably banking on increased revenues from North Sea Oil. you know the ones he said were not there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossy Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 Hague said it would be delivered without pre conditions. Ah, OK. That's funny, because we were promised DevoMax/Home Rule/a Federal system by Brown, but the Tories are apparently saying 'no'. I wonder what Hague's 'no pre-conditions' are. I only bring that up, because I'm fairly sure under the 'Home Rule' that was promised to us, none of things you mention in your OP would apply to Scotland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorbotnic Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 probably banking on increased revenues from North Sea Oil. you know the ones he said were not there. Or shale gas tax from 'the desolate North'... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Return of Yermaw Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 Hague said it would be delivered without pre conditions. So why is the man who led the charge on it and promised it before the referendum asking for a petition to be signed? One promise already pretty much ignored and the lapdogs salivating at the next set of promises. Unbelievable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlfieMoon Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 He is commiting to raising the 20% to 12500 and the 40% to 50k. On top of this scrapping death tax. One has to wonder where the cuts are coming from to tackle deficit. These tax cuts will take another 7bn out of the treasury.Commitment to maintain NHS budget. So what's is in line for privatisation? These things for a start: http://www.nhsforsale.info/private-providers/private-provider-profiles-2/virgin.html http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/jul/02/cancer-care-nhs-outsourcing-ccgs-unison-virgin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wibble Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 Camoron could have his work cut out - not just with the promises he made to Scotland. See front page and page 3... http://lift-offmagazine.co.uk/LiftOff!_15_Oct_Nov_2014/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flure Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 Camoron could have his work cut out - not just with the promises he made to Scotland. See front page and page 3... http://lift-offmagazine.co.uk/LiftOff!_15_Oct_Nov_2014/ Link no' worky! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wibble Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 (edited) Link no' worky! Are you still on the gas-powered Mac? http://lift-offmagazine.co.uk/LiftOff!_15_Oct_Nov_2014/ Works for me. Try this if it's still an issue: http://lift-offmagazine.co.uk/ Someone is getting sacked if it disnae work. (Could be me!!!!!!! ) Edited October 1, 2014 by Wibble Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khana Lagur Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 (edited) He is commiting to raising the 20% to 12500 and the 40% to 50k. On top of this scrapping death tax. One has to wonder where the cuts are coming from to tackle deficit. These tax cuts will take another 7bn out of the treasury.Commitment to maintain NHS budget. So what's is in line for privatisation? The tax moves are smoke and mirrors (inflation over the (as yet) planned implementation period could virtually negate much of any increase). But it still does absolutely nothing to tackle ther root of the inequality problem in this country. As for what could be used to generate govt income: we could sanction the open sponsorship of MPs and Lords rather than the covert sponsorship that exists just now. Lord Foulkes (sponsored by Pampers, for example). Or we could sell the naming right for the palace of Westminster to the highest bidder. Edited October 1, 2014 by Khana Lagur Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haggis_trap Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 (edited) David Cameron has played a good tactical game....1) By devolving powers to Scotland he reduces Labours influence at Westminster.2) and.... by giving Scotland some limited tax powers he cuts the Barnett formula by stealth. Plus he gets to keep the oil revenue to fund austerity cuts and lower UK taxes.Any Labour voters who voted NO should hang their head in shame.Bent over and fucked bare-back.... Edited October 1, 2014 by Haggis_trap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishcumnock Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 You dont fund cuts , you just cut the budget . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossy Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 David Cameron has played a good tactical game.... 1) By devolving powers to Scotland he reduces Labours influence at Westminster. 2) and.... by giving Scotland some limited tax powers he cuts the Barnett formula by stealth. Plus he gets to keep the oil revenue to fund austerity cuts and lower UK taxes. Any Labour voters who voted NO should hang their head in shame. Bent over and fucked bare-back.... He hasn't devolved any powers at all to Scotland. He keeps on saying he's going to, while as time passes the 'home rule' that was promised gets constantly watered down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pool Q Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 (edited) Hague said it would be delivered without pre conditions. I heard Hague interviewed on Today and he said just that. But, and in practice it is a huge but, he qualified it by saying 'providing that all three parties can agree on what powers are to be devolved within the necessary timescale'. I genuinely doubt that they will, or that anyone at the head of Labour or the Tories believes that they will either. Needless to say the proviso went unchallenged by Jim Naughtie. I noticed too that no mention at all was made of the promise to maintain Barnett. To be fair Hague did seem to specifically 'de-couple' the timing of legislation for Scottish devolution from the English issue. Edited October 1, 2014 by Pool Q Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parklife Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 Cameron can shove his tax cut and attempt to buy votes. I don't need it. Would rather they scrapped their planned benefit freeze. Why should the poorest pay for me to have more money? Fluck the Tories and their attempts to buy votes, while destroying the most vulnerable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bino's Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 The tax cuts are planned 'hopefully' within the term of the next parliament only 'after' the deficit has been balanced by 2020 ie we hope to provide the tax cuts by 2020 after we have balanced the deficit they said in 2010 the deficit would be balanced by now it has not been the tax cuts will never occur as the defict will not be balanced in teh next term and they will not be elected fro a third term with johnson as leader - and eevn if they did this is 6 years away - a lot can happen in that time - we might have even qualified for a major tournament by then not that you would know this from the bbc's article http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-29433919 total scum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kittymeister Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 And all this could have been do easily avoided. Good to see that he is thanking those Pensioners who voted to save the Union by reducing their pensions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killie97 Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 He is commiting to raising the 20% to 12500 and the 40% to 50k. On top of this scrapping death tax. One has to wonder where the cuts are coming from to tackle deficit. These tax cuts will take another 7bn out of the treasury.Commitment to maintain NHS budget. So what's is in line for privatisation? As I understand it, these promised tax cuts will only come into force once the deficit has been cleared and the country is back in the black. By their own admissions this will not be before 2020. Expect even more cuts in the meantime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pool Q Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 As I understand it, these promised tax cuts will only come into force once the deficit has been cleared and the country is back in the black. By their own admissions this will not be before 2020. Expect even more cuts in the meantime. Indeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 (edited) This vow malarky seems to be catching on As some political reporters have stated it's been almost unheard of that a party would make such a statement with absolutely no detail on how it will be afforded The answers have already been given but it can only be afforded by even more cuts to public services and Government Departments Edited October 1, 2014 by Ally Bongo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bino's Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 As I understand it, these promised tax cuts will only come into force once the deficit has been cleared and the country is back in the black. By their own admissions this will not be before 2020. Expect even more cuts in the meantime. and by back in the black we're not counting the £1,300,000,000,000 debt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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