irnbruman Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 Absolutely sick of the constant references to SNP being poisonous , toxic etc here in Englandshire - I expect it from the Westminster elite - but so many of these voxpops with stupid ignorant fukkers down here. Fortunately not had to deal with anyone spouting that opinion to me directly - I'm sure my restraint can't last much longer. I'm just hoping that the SNP take all the seats and Scotland so that we can ram it right up these bastirds - but way its going in England I think any SNP voice will be frozen out. Miliband will forego any alliance/pact with the SNP. I can see him letting Cameron/Clegg being in coalition and Miliband staying in opposition - he will jettison Scotland and let the Labour party be English. Can only see more and more Scottish dissent following this GE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auld_Reekie Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 I wouldn't worry about it. From where Im sitting, the Union is deid. Tories appear to be running an advert in England that portray's Salmond as a pickpocket, and Brown is making headlines saying "vote Labour to be a true Scottish patriot". The Union cannot survive this. Tories appear to have realised it and are positioning themselves as the dominant party in rUK for the next 10-20 years, while UK Labour are as limp as a limp thing. Central to all this, Scottish Labour plumb new depths with every passing day. I actually struggle to find words to describe how utterly desperate and pathetic they've become, and it's difficult to see at what point they're going to draw a line under what they've been doing for the last 5 years and turn it around. In this context, the Union is utterly f***ed. The Union needs 24 hour care but the Tories couldn't give a f*** and Labour's too busy pi**ing the bed. It's over IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irnbruman Posted April 24, 2015 Author Share Posted April 24, 2015 I agree totally with what you are saying. England and Scotland are becoming further and further apart politically - despite having been in England for 30 years since I was 23, I find myself with less and less in common with a lot of Englanders and more and more I feel like a foreigner - but tbh I like it that way as I'm in n o way "British" - many folks down here think thats a stupid attitude but as far as I'm concerned they can go f*ck themselves. Cant wait to come back up on election night and savour the moments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Of Paisley Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 For me, Cameron has shown his true Old Etonian colours. He was of course up her during indyref practically begging Scotland to stay in this glorious Union of ours and that we would help lead this so-called family of nations. Fast forward 7 months where the likelihood is that Scotland will take Eton Dave up on his, and all of a sudden we are being labelled 'dangerous' amongst other smears. Scotland is either part of the Union or it isn't. It is that simple. Cameron and his ilk simply can't have it both ways. But I agree with Auld Reekie - the Union is slowly but surely over. I didn't think that would the case on 19th September, in fact I simply resigned myself to the fact that the opportunity was gone and a shitstorm was coming our way big time for daring to live the dream. However, I get the sense that people, and I include 'No' voters in this, are waking up to what the Unionists are really all about and how worthless the Vow is. The Establishment can throw what they want at us, but I feel the ship has long since sailed in terms of people's voting intentions. Any further shit they throw at us will simply harden our resolve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auchinyell Sox Change Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 I agree totally with what you are saying. England and Scotland are becoming further and further apart politically - despite having been in England for 30 years since I was 23, I find myself with less and less in common with a lot of Englanders and more and more I feel like a foreigner - but tbh I like it that way as I'm in n o way "British" - many folks down here think thats a stupid attitude but as far as I'm concerned they can go f*ck themselves. Cant wait to come back up on election night and savour the moments. you are british ; get over it , or burn your passport if you feel that strongly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Return of Yermaw Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 you are british ; get over it , or burn your passport if you feel that strongly What would destroying his passport do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flora MaDonald Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 you are british ; get over it , or burn your passport if you feel that strongly Yes, we are. Lied and cheated to make us stay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hertsscot Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 See Clegg has just come out ruling out any cooperation with the SNP. If the old Westminster parties freeze out the wishes of Scots voters then it will just confirm the view that politically the views of Scots voters are completely irrelevant. I cannot see how the deliberate ignoring of the democratic wishes of Scotland to be good for the long term future of the union. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShedTA Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 Latest Tory poster... https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CDYv6i7WMAAotSb.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristolhibby Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 (edited) Latest Tory poster... https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CDYv6i7WMAAotSb.jpg Back to Alex, obviously getting no tracksion lampooning Nicola.The way I see it hinges round EVEL. If the Tories get in this will be popular. Labour were against it admit would neuter them in Westminster. That may not be the case now, as the Labour Party has neutered themselves. There may be broad support (or lack of opposition to EVEL). IMO that is a different lay of the land to trigger Refferendum III. Certainly if they go forward with an in-out EU reffrendum and England votes no and Scotland yes. As much is Labour is ####ed in Scotland I'd rather have them in a minority goverenment than the Tories, simple as that, as the Tories are insane, compassion less and dangerous. J Edited April 25, 2015 by Bristolhibby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasoupblu Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 I agree totally with what you are saying. England and Scotland are becoming further and further apart politically - despite having been in England for 30 years since I was 23, I find myself with less and less in common with a lot of Englanders and more and more I feel like a foreigner - but tbh I like it that way as I'm in n o way "British" - many folks down here think thats a stupid attitude but as far as I'm concerned they can go f*ck themselves. Cant wait to come back up on election night and savour the moments. I would hate to think we would have any English people living and working here in Scotland with such a stinking attitude and opinion of his neighbours as irnbruman.Nationalism is just so positive isn't it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hertsscot Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 (edited) I would hate to think we would have any English people living and working here in Scotland with such a stinking attitude and opinion of his neighbours as irnbruman.Nationalism is just so positive isn't it In fairness the Scots media and politicans are not relentlessly telling the public that the English are money grabbing, undemocratic spongers who are a clear threat to world peace and security etc. Some of the stuff from Unionist (rather than 'English') press and poiliticans has been disgraceful. The love bombing of the autumn is a very distant memory. Edited April 25, 2015 by Hertsscot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishcumnock Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 You mean they DON'T love us ? why would they say it then ? Oh oil ok ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exile Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 Latest Tory poster... https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CDYv6i7WMAAotSb.jpg Cameron must be pressed: does he believe in the Barnett formula or not? If he doesn't, then the Vow was a lie, because he signed up to Barnett. If he does believe in Barnett, then the Vow was a lie, since showing Salmond as a criminal implies SNP don't have equal legitimate status as a British democratic party. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exile Posted April 28, 2015 Share Posted April 28, 2015 Evening Standard refers to "the apparent illegitimacy of a possible Labour/SNP combination. The latter alone could lead to civil disobedience." http://www.standard.co.uk/comment/comment/james-palumbo-there-will-be-a-riot-when-we-wake-up-to-economic-reality-10210027.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mariokempes56 Posted April 28, 2015 Share Posted April 28, 2015 Evening Standard refers to "the apparent illegitimacy of a possible Labour/SNP combination. The latter alone could lead to civil disobedience." http://www.standard.co.uk/comment/comment/james-palumbo-there-will-be-a-riot-when-we-wake-up-to-economic-reality-10210027.html Ah democracy.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alibi Posted April 28, 2015 Share Posted April 28, 2015 I saw one of those Salmond "pickpocket" posters in Carlisle at the weekend. You'll know the one if you pass it. It has an SNP sticker on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hertsscot Posted April 28, 2015 Share Posted April 28, 2015 Evening Standard refers to "the apparent illegitimacy of a possible Labour/SNP combination. The latter alone could lead to civil disobedience." http://www.standard.co.uk/comment/comment/james-palumbo-there-will-be-a-riot-when-we-wake-up-to-economic-reality-10210027.html Pathetic - how about the apparent illegitimacy of the ConDem coalition that Scotland didn't vote for! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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